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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (6 children)

That was in response to being robbed.

I think the phrase you're looking for is “defending yourself”.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I don't live in a 3rd world country, so I guess I just don't understand the concept of needing to arm myself before leaving my house because I'm likely to need a deadly weapon while I go about my business.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I don’t live in a 3rd world country

lol the US has the highest death rate from gun violence - it's literally the #1 killer of children.

which is not to assert that adding more firearms will help the situation, but it's got fuckall to do with living in a first world country or third world country.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

In these kinds of discussions you can assume the third world country jab was a reference to the US.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

As an aside: part of the definition of a First World Country includes being a "stable democracy".

If a poll was done of American citizens asking them "do you think fraud will play a part in the upcoming election?" I would be shocked if less than 80% said yes. That doesn't sound like a stable democracy to me.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

What country do you live in? I’m curious which one has no theft or violent crime.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (34 children)

Not OP check out my username for an idea of where I live. Besides a bit of gang on gang action in our capital, violent crimes are extremely rare. It's maybe once a year that police have to shoot at a person, and even then police officers will assess the situation and if possible not go for center mass.

Note how I left out theft. That's because you can't directly use violence to protect property.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

There's a difference between "violent crime exists" and "violent crime is so prevalent that regular citizens need to carry around an implement designed to kill people quickly while they go about their daily lives."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've never been in a serious vehicle accident.

Still wear my seat belt though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"Wearing a seatbelt is the same as walking around with a device that can near instantly kill people." Is something said by someone living in a dystopia.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It was a preparedness analogy which seems to have gone over your head.

Is something said by someone living in a dystopia.

You've had a variation on this in just about every response. It's getting very old. We get it, US bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Was my statement wrong in any way?

If it's getting old stop trying to argue against it by saying the dystopian attitude is necessary.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Was my statement wrong in any way?

Do you know how analogies work? Of course the two things I compared are different.

It's like if I said "a fish swimming is like a bird flying" and you coming along and saying "omg swimming and flying are the same now????/"

I even spelled it out - it's about preparedness.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children)

Was my statement wrong in any way?

Do you know how analogies work? Of course the two things I compared are different.

That doesn't answer my question as to if my statement was incorrect.

You've made an analogy about preparedness and let the assumption hang that that makes both things equal.

Just like saying "a fish swimming is like a bird flying" isn't an argument that a bird would be able to fly underwater, saying "I've never been in an accident and still wear a seatbelt" is not an argument for "always have a deadly weapon on you when you leave the house" not being evidence of a completely fucked up situation.

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