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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago (5 children)

"grandparents"

Life expectancy in 18th century France was in the 20s, grandparents are optional

[–] PoopingCough@lemmy.world 63 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I don't disagree with your overall point, but statistics like that are almost always heavily skewed because of high infant mortality rates

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The mortality rate during childbirth was pretty high for women on top of the infant rate. Childbirth as a whole dragged the numbers down.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The mortality of mothers only became a big issue between doctors being in charge of birth and hand washing becoming a rule

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

The domestication of storks has also led to fewer deaths upon delivery. I wish to also add something to this thread of reddit factoids.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 months ago

18th century france is also quite possibly the single worst place and point in time to use as a comparison, there's a reason people beheaded monarchs.

[–] RedditRefugee69 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A reminder that life expectancy in ancient history was so low not because people generally croaked by 40, but because of how many children died young.

It's an average, not a maximum. People regularly lived into their 70s and 80s hundreds of years ago.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 months ago

From what i've read and heard about the subject, the life expectancy generally looked something like this back in the hunter-gatherer days:

You were very likely to die as an infant, pretty likely to die before puberty, after that you were likely to make it to 40-50, and it wasn't that rare to reach 70.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 months ago

If you make past childhood for most of history outside of places experiencing plagues, major famines, or wars, you had a good shot of making it to your 70s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy#Life_expectancy_vs._other_measures_of_longevity

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 months ago

That was an evolutionarily insignificant time period.