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I can’t wait for all the Apple haters to absolutely lose their shit over such an inconsequential thing.
Apple fanboy here. This will prevent me from upgrading from my M2 Pro Mini. I'll likely end up buying a Studio at some point if they don't come out with an iMac Pro.
It's genuinely one of the dumbest things Apple has done. And that list is growing with nearly every product they release.
You’re refusing to upgrade because of the location of a single button that you’ll hardly ever use.
Don’t pretend that’s reasonable.
What’s unreasonable is Apple’s design philosophy.
I don’t want to have to unbuild my desktop and unplug everything from my computer just to turn it back on. I don’t even know how I would use this computer in my setup. Because Apple didn’t want to expose a power button. Or because they chose to cut corners.
It’s not unreasonable just because you don’t like it. And it’s not Apple's fault you set your desktop up the way you did.
That would be your belief that it's not unreasonable to have to physically pick up and upend a desktop computer in order to turn it on. For the rest of human civilization, the concept alone is ridiculous.
No. It's not Apple's fault I configured my desktop to be efficient and ergonomic. It is their fault that they first made a large screen iMac (with an inaccessible SD card slot on the back) which was best suited for my needs, then discontinued that product which required I replace it with a Mini (and third party monitor equalling more than the price of the iMac), put the button on the Mini which is nearly impossible to feel in the first place, left out an SD card slot requiring that I purchase accessories to reasonably use my computer for computing, and then created a replacement product which requires unplugging things from it and physically lifting it up to turn it on, hindering the ability for a reasonably efficient desktop configuration to be upended so they could save a couple dollars on their product.
Please, you can feel however you want about this but it's an objective fact that this is not a reasonable location for a computer power button. I really don't care that much other than the fact that that I'm already prepared to not replace my current Mini with another Mini. The Studio Mac will probably be my next computer because it reasonably has a power button in an accessible-ish location and comes with an SD card slot; even though it's far more computing power than I'll ever need and more than I can reasonably afford.
I would imagine you also believe it's "reasonable" to forgo an SD card slot in favor of plugging your camera into the computer or having to purchase one or more accessories to reasonably use a desktop computer to add files to it.
Edit: I will note, to Apple's credit, they put the headphone jack on the front. It's sad how awesome something so obvious can be.
I didn’t read that. It’s unfortunate that you have decided to arrange your computer and desktop in a way that makes using a computer difficult. Don’t blame Apple for that.
That’s your choice.
I like that Lemmy has this function to block trolls.
“He pointed out that my own decisions are to blame! He’s a troll!”
Telling you you’re wrong doesn’t make me a troll. Getting upset about that and then blaming others is not an adult way to behave.
The funny thing about your edit is that I wish the headphone jack was still in the back because I use regular speakers and all my headphones can connect via usb. Now, unless I use a dock (which will probably have to happen anyway eventually, to be fair) I'll have to plug things in the front and back at all times.
@oxjox @EleventhHour Mac OS will power down the Mac without ever touching the power button. We’re not animals.
And how does it turn itself on?
It reminds me of the Apple mouse situation
Another thing that has never been a problem in the decade and a half that I’ve had a magic mouse. Is it dead? Plug it in for 15 minutes and go get some coffee and maybe have a pee. Plug it in when you’re done at the end of the day, and you’ll be golden for a month.
I would argue that getting all twisted up about something so inconsequential is stupid and petty.
I almost made it to Best Buy checkout with a Logitech mouse that would’ve been perfect for my needs and preferences, but two Apple hitmen came out from nowhere, intercepted me, pointed a gun at my head, and frogmarched me back to the Apple section. Now I’m forced to use this fucking Magic Mouse. Fuck you Apple.
No, you're plugging it in for 10 minutes if you somehow manage to forget to leave it plugged in overnight once in a while.
It must be nice to be immune to random interruptions and 15 minute delays.
I’m not an apple hater, I have a Mac mini. However, our power goes out fairly regularly in the winter, and it’ll get old having to get the thing out of the back of my desk at start it again pretty bloody quickly, it’s an obviously daft place to put it.
Terminal: sudo systemsetup -setrestartpowerfailure on
That’s the most useful thing anyone’s said so far, thanks. My current mini is hard enough to get at, as it’s under the back of the desk, so I’ve used this, as even though the power button is in a vaguely accessible place, there computer isn’t. Why would I want it taking up room on the top that could be used for synths I can’t play, and coffee I haven’t drunk?!
You can power it on using the keyboard. There’s a power button there.
You can connect the keyboard with the USB-C cable. That’s how you charge it anyway.
Although, I know everyone here absolutely hates the idea of ever plugging in an apple device to charge it. Just look at the conniption fit everyone throws over their mice.
Of course, people who don’t care for it could simply not buy it, but then nobody would ever have anything to make a comment about. This whole community is 99% rage, posting about things that could not possibly matter less.
Whaaa? The charging port isn’t on the bottom of the keyboard? 😂
Ah, if I used a Mac keyboard then I’d probably have known that. I generally don’t really like Mac peripherals, I’ve got a full size mechanical keyboard and a thumb wheel mouse. I get that it’s not an insurmountable problem, but there’s only one face out of the six that you can absolutely guarantee isn’t going to be immediately accessible, so why put the only button on the whole machine on that face, as opposed to next to all the I/Os?
This is already been explained to you. Asking the same question more than once expecting a different answer doesn’t seem sensible.
Can you also use that button for hard reboots? Because I use the power button for that with some regularity.
Then it sounds like your problem isn’t where the button is, it’s that you have to keep pressing it for hard reboot. Sounds like you have a software issue that needs resolving.
Oh just solve all the software problems in the world so this need never arises. I’ll get right on that.
Once again, it not Apple’s fault that your computer keeps freezing.
If you put a fraction of the effort into fixing it that you do into whining about things that are your own fault, you’ve had it solved already.
You’re adorable.
And you’re a crybaby. Crybabies are not adorable.
Set your energy saver preferences in System Settings to automatically restart the computer after a power failure.
Do you not already have to reach behind your current Mini to turn it on in the instance the power goes out?
Now instead of reaching around, you just would have to reach to basically the same area and press a button underneath. Unless you have a bunch of junk on top of the computer, it's going to take the same amount of effort.
It looks like the foot/base bit isn’t tall enough to get a finger to the button without lifting the thing up. That seems daft to me. You’re having to move the whole unit about to push a button
It's in a weird spot, but it's also 1.5lbs. so I don't feel like it'll be too much effort to slip a finger under there.
That’s what she said!
I actually have to press this all the time when my mini freezes or there has been a power failure. My mini has quite a few cables plugged into it and a stack of drives on top. So yeah lifting it up to press a button is decidedly inconvenient and inelegant. It’s not killing anyone’s babies but we’re talking about product design here. Inconvenient and inelegant are 100% fair game.
As I said, in another comment, you should focus on what is causing the freezing, not where a button is.
“Don’t hold it like that.” :E