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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the specific people are all (with the exception of Sam Altmann) grifters. they are

  1. guy whose sub imploded at the titanic
    2 Sam Altman, head of OpenAI (which went from charity to a wing of Microsoft).
  2. Sam Bankman Freid's brother, who was talking about buying an island to carry "effective altruists" through an extinction-level event.

It pisses me off that these are the first EA adjacent people that are broadly well-known, rather than Givewell and 80,000 hours, who are actually doing good work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nah, EA is alright if done properly. The "Longtermism" aspect is pure bullshit though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

EA is just PR. It's a way to get rich while pretending to do good.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

EA is primarily advice for people with moderate amounts of disposable income (i.e. middle class), or people trying to figure out their career trajectory. Earn to give is very much a minority position, and that's pretty much the only one that at all involves aiming to be rich.

Longtermism is mostly a weird set of academics. the recent folks using it as a pretext to buy houses in the Caribbean are almost purely a group of cryptobros using it as a way to ethics-wash their pump and dump.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sounds like you're still learning. There are assumptions baked into that, which only support the elite.