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This guy is trash but I can't get behind doxxing. Maga types will be doing a lot of this over the next 4 years and I certainly won't like it when they're doxxing immigrants and LGBTQ folks.
Be clear: I think this dude is as bad as they come, I'm just not comfortable with popularizing the practice, especially when maga types are fans of setting things on fire / shooting at things they disagree with.
If you think my comment is a defense of nick Fuentes, or that horrible slogan, you're as wrong as is physically possible. I know he's done worse than this, and now is hiding behind elongated. But that still doesn't make it a good thing to popularize.
Nah, doxxing streamers or random people cause you're a no life creep is disgusting.
Doxxing people actively harming society is fine.
The point is they will do it too, and it will have been increasingly normalized. It will not be applied per your definition of "fine". Remember, "they" (read, maga types) think immigrants and others are "harming society".
They already are. This is just self defense.
Sure but why on earth should that mean we should condemn it universally? It's not like they'd stop if we did.
Eh… fuck em. Let them fuck around and find out. I’m tired of playing nice guy with these twats.
I understand the desire. But two wrongs don't make a right.
For example, I'm also against the jokes about prison rape. I don't care who you are, you don't deserve to be repeatedly raped because you committed a crime.
Edit the point is that feeling of seeking retribution is natural. You want "bad" people to get the very worst of life. But if for nothing else it's best not to act on those thoughts because we wouldn't want that "retribution" brought upon others or even ourselves.
I'll make a deal with you. I'll be totally ok with it if I start actively harming women by insinuating I own them and you doxx me for that so that women can come tell me how I've harmed them. If I spout white supremacist drivel I want you to punch me until I stop. If I make thinly veiled rape threats I want you to kill me.
Since I want that to happen to me, I can go ahead and do what I want, right?
It's not "you", it's the innocent people about to be doxxed for their immigration status, who are not interested in whatever deal you're comfortable with.
Once the practice becomes politically popularized, the cat is out of the bag.
If you think non-fascists being civil and respectful to fascist is going to give fascists even a fraction of a second of pause before they do shitty things, my only possible conclusion is that you’re painfully naïve and also that you don’t actually understand what fascism is.
Doing their dance moves doesn't make us "good" anymore.
Who is "us"? I'm not here to be a good guy. I'm here to live my life on my terms without interference and help others do the same. Notice that nowhere in that sentence did I say "Make racists comfortable and happy" or "Snuggle up to a smarmy pile of garbage who trolls women".
I'm not a good guy. I'm not a nice guy. I'm not the tolerant left. I'm pissed the fuck off and I'm not above doxxing a stupid cunt obliquely threatening rape or punching a Nazi. You can whisper your mean words about them into your pillow or whatever you think will make them stop and I support your right to do so. But that ain't me.
Those two scenarios are mutually exclusive.
It's like saying, "Well, you don't want non-violent offenders in prison, so no one should ever go to prison for any reason."
This is literally what they've been saying for years. It's amazing how much we are like the people we hate the most.
GOP behavior baseline is Dems breaking point behavior. Notable difference.
By justifying it, you're justifying it for them too, as they believe they have the same or similar grievances. Regardless of who you think is more guilty.
They already believe themselves to be justified and have had their consent manufactured over a long time. As evidenced by the fact that they feel righteous in the Jan 6 attempt, and are responsible for most terrorism.
They say the same thing about the BLM protests.
There is no legal or verbal defense against this madness.
Once it spreads, historically, industrial levels of violence are the only way to try to put the genie back in the bottle.
I’d rather small scale intimidation against ringleaders like nick, than having to bomb the fuck out of some redneck stronghold in Missouri in 10 years.
My opinion is clearly unpopular here and I'm ok with it. I don't think it's cool to normalize violence (or threats of violence) even if the recipient is abhorrent. This isnt a "oh let's all have free speech, let's here what maga has to say" / platforming type of comment/opinion I'm sharing. It's a "I'm not going to normalize violence especially because I don't want it turned around on at risk people."
Y'all are free to have your own voice on it, I'm just sharing my view.
The violence of the oppressors is normalized because they can pass laws to enforce it. The only violence you're opposed to is the defense of the oppressed.
No opinion on the matter at hand, I'm just throwing out there that saving a woman's life when she's bleeding out due to lethal complications in her pregnancy is illegal until the last second in many states (let's see how Project 2025 will impact that in the future). Appointing the kind of special counsel that has been perfectly normal and legal since like forever? Illegal the moment he investigates Trump. Doing crimes? Illegal. Doing crimes as president? Immune, according to Trump's Supreme court sock puppets..
What's legal and illegal only depends on how many judges you've bought these days.
PS: Oh and all that brazen bribery shit that would get any other official not just fired, but straight up locked up? Perfectly legal but only if you're a Supreme Court judge. Guess who got to decide that? Go have a cookie if your guess was the very people accepting the bribes.
They'll do it regardless of if it's done to this dipshit or not.
You’re not comfortable using a tactic these chucklefucks use aggressively against us?
You’re as bad as DNC leadership, tbh. This “they go low we go high” idiocy got us where we are. Stop bringing a fucking deck of cards to a gunfight.
Do not lean into the paradox of tolerance. Intolerant views must not be tolerated. It’s always a good day to punch (or dox, or harass, or share their extremist views to their employer or…) a Nazi.
the only way these idiots will support anti doxxing laws are if they are doxxed. Its how you build a consensus.
You sound like the type of guy to tell someone who is being shot at that they shouldn't shoot back because "two wrongs don't make a right". This guy should be glad he's just being doxxed, my grandpa's generation had no problem sending Sherman tanks with flamethrowers on them after people like him.