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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I think that, if this question is in good faith, this might be the right time for you to tell us what you think the process is for transitioning. What the steps are, how long you're legally required to wait between steps, what paperwork and doctor's visits are required for which step, which step is a "point of no return", that kind of thing.

We don't know what level your knowledge is at and it's hard to educate someone who is not brave enough to put themselves out there to be corrected.

On the other hand if you don't want to learn today and you just want to feel empowered in your hate, I think Twitter is great for that kind of thing

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

if this question is in good faith

When it comes to arguing against access to gender-affirming healthcare for trans individuals, it's never in good faith.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

if this question is in good faith, this might be the right time for you to tell us what you think the process is for transitioning

I think if you want to change your gender via surgery you should be at least 18 years old. That barrier is put there for many reasons for all sorts of activities, and responsibilities. Having potentially hazardous surgery is perfectly within that framework

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, but I asked if you knew what the steps are, how long you're legally required to wait between steps, what paperwork and doctor's visits are required for which step, which step is a "point of no return", that kind of thing. Do you have any knowledge about those topics whatsoever, or are you forming opinions without knowing anything about the topic at hand?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Do you have any knowledge about those topics whatsoever,

Do I need to know? What this type of knowledge brings to the debate?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yes, you need to be knowledgeable about or have experience with things you have opinions on. To do anything otherwise would be "spreading lies because of an agenda."

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Well, it brings the knowledge that if minors do get a double mastectomy (top surgery), they have to be on testosterone for a while (minimum of a year, which is a LONG time to figure out that maybe you don't like these changes). They also have to get consent from parents and 2 separate therapists plus an endocrinologist need to sign off on the surgery.

I feel like if you knew this, it'd probably be a lot less scary to you. They have to jump through a lot of hoops and every hoop gives a lot of time for them to figure out if this is the right choice.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

What this type of knowledge brings to the debate?

An actual understanding of what you're arguing against? You feel that it's too easy for minors to get gender-affirming surgery, yet you actually know nothing of the process.

If you're not willing to learn about what you're arguing against, you're acting in bad faith.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yup, this exactly. The smartest thing to do with a population that is historically the most mentally stable among us we should tell children they just need to hold out two more years to deal with the things making their lives hell. They'll be fine, or not, who cares really? They should just realize gender is fake and they're a man, but failing that wait until I don't have a good legal argument yet before taking steps to make your life better.