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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (10 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (9 children)

why deny educational opportunities to people that can’t prove they’re descended from a slave, hundreds of years ago?
it seems pretty unfair to everyone else, and reduces the quality of students.
if anything should be based on merit, it’s education….
or what about slave descendants who aren’t going to college? they don’t deserve reparations? just students?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (5 children)

What about things that are unfair to descendants of slaves? What do you think about those things?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

your whataboutism isn’t relevant here.
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are you inferring that i’m unaware of or unsympathetic to that? i’m not, so very much could be done to help with that, ethically, without like, denying educational opportunities to people who can’t prove that they’re descendants of slaves.
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i.e. admit people to college based on the content of their character, not by the color of their skin…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is the argument always used to oppose equity programs. “Why not just use merit instead of skin color” leads to overwhelming discrimination. African American students don’t measure up as highly as white students on tests that have been historically designed with the explicit purpose of discrimination. It’s not a level playing field. How will you determine the content of someone’s character for college admissions? How about we use standardized tests? https://www.nea.org/nea-today/all-news-articles/racist-beginnings-standardized-testing because those are fucked my guy

You’re conflating the issue of proving ancestry with merit based admissions, either intentionally or because you don’t realize just how fucked up that is. Every black person in the US is historically an immigrant, just like every non-indigenous person is. Most black Americans’ ancestors did not come here by choice. So when you conflate “use discriminatory standardized tests” with “how is a black American supposed to prove their ancestors were slaves” you’re being extremely racist. Stop complaining about whataboutism and think about the arguments you’re making for more than five seconds. This law is intended to bypass the progress that the right wing has made in making race based admissions standards illegal, not to harm white kids.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You’re conflating the issue of proving ancestry with merit based admissions,

no i’m not and you’re nuts, or a troll…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Brother that’s exactly what you said. “Instead of giving preference to the ancestry of applicants, why not use the content of their character” is exactly that. It’s twisting MLK’s words 60 years later to parrot the arguments white supremacists have always used. You don’t even know you’re using their words, do you? Or you’re the troll.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

“parroting”, as opposed to using a well known phrase to make a point… and pointing out the hypocrisy here.
“arguments white supremacists use”, instead of, actually my own argument about this specific topic….
yeah, you’re a troll.
it’s not working, i do not care about your attempts to goad me.
i’m also positive that you’re a racist, as only a racist would use false accusations of racism to troll for entertainment….
get a life, or a hobby or something… such a waste of time

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