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That's a you tube series. I'm talking about real life. Get off the internet and talk to real people. See if anyone uses the word "Liberal " like you do. One guy wote a book. Even if you can sight several scolars, it that's more than that to change the definition of a word or how 99.9998% of the population uses the word. To mean freedom. Likes it does.
Read the damn book, it goes through its use by the major liberal thinkers since the 1700s. If you read any leftist or semi-serious literature on the subject, they'll be using that same definition.
If that's too much, just peruse https://www.google.com/search?q=site:marxists.org%20liberalism
Every work there is political and either historical or of some level of academic rigor.
"Liberalism is a word that means different things to different people."
That is literally first damn sentence that come up for your under your link!
We've supplied you with works showing the definition that OP and every even semi-serious political philosopher, both liberal and communist means when they say it.
Why are you dying on this hill? Just educate yourself.
Dude, I literally showed you the dictionary. You think that Wikipedia, the OED, and everyone else is wrong but one dead Italian communist was right. Yes, pinko maranara had half a point in that some bad things have been done in the past in the name of liberalism, but that can be said for every major political philosophy.
I find it very telling that not one of you russian trolls can tell me who you would support in the upcoming US election.
There's 30 pages of citations, he goes through every major liberal philosopher and most of the leaders, if you want to say everyone from Locke to Smith to De Tocqueville and Washington to Jefferson to Teddy Roosevelt didn't understand their own philosophy, that's a hell of a take.
Do you genuinely believe that anyone you're talking to is a Russian troll? You can look at people's post histories.
Answer the question. If you can or if you could, who would you vote for ?
I am voting PSL.
A vote for trump. A vote that looks at the only two possible outcomes of this election and see no difference between the two. Thank you, go fuck yourself.
Here is the fun part of this hill. I'm not dying on it. No matter what direction thus little internet debate goes, at the end of the day, liberal still means liberal. You all insisting that up means down and liberal is bad because reasons doesn't change anything except amuse me. It's like watching monkeys flung poo. I'm not dieing on this hill, I got my feet up earing popcorn. Let me know when y'all get the dictionary updated.