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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

If they can elect a felon to the white house, so could we.

Edit: Better image, thanks to @[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 months ago (5 children)

If we're fighting with the same weapons, then Biden's last act should be a pardon for Luigi...

[–] [email protected] 71 points 3 months ago

Biden is not on our side on this issue, that's part of the problem. He is and was the candidate that the people who didn't want healthcare reform pushed in to block Bernie from putting the issue on the ballot by running on it.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago

I keep hearing this idea floated, do people really think that Biden is not on the same side as the health insurance companies??

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

He hasn't been convicted yet. You cannot pardon someone who doesn't technically have a record.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Incorrect. Example, hunter was pardoned for everything he might've done in the past 11 years, not just what he was actually convicted of.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

I stand corrected. That was quite a misinformed post I made.

[–] iknowitwheniseeit 37 points 3 months ago

Nixon was preemptively pardoned.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Didn't Trump already issue pre-emptive parsons last time around? Or at least try to?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yes. Steve Bannon.

Didn't try. Did.

Mangione (similar to Bannon) has a mixture of state and federal charges levied against him, and Presidents cannot pardon state charges.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Sure. I also don't imagine for a second that Biden would do it. I was just trying to recall if it was actually accurate that you can't pre-emptively pardon (or, at least, that there's no precedent for it; what Trump has done hardly seems to be a guideline for what presidents should be able to do).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Gaetz asked for one, but got denied

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

And when he doesn't, that means we're not fighting with the same weapons.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I think accepting a pardon implicitly admits you did the thing, which could have complications for states prosecuting.