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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Good point, and well made. However, ICE cars are already wearing out. 250 million ICE cars on the road. ICE sales stop. The next day, some of those 250 million cars wear out. Gas consumption goes down.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but it's the scale and timeframe. People talk like they expect gas consumption to go down now. It's all over the place. They talk as if a few EVs will cause gas consumption to go down, and it's so easy why aren't we doing it already. The reality is it needs to be 100% EV sales for that to happen.

And it's also policy. We're not going to get 100% EV sales any time soon. So gas consumption will go up. Pretty much anything short of 100% ev sales means our gas consumption goes up. Combined with growing population, yeah more consumption.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's fairly straightforward- if a new car is an EV, consumption will be less than if that car was ICE.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Not when we go to SUVs, growing population, and growing car ownership per capita. This is not static like everyone talks about. To make any real dent you pretty much need 100% EV sales.

Again it's the scale timeframe and policy. Scale: we're talking the entire country, not singular cars. That means you have to account for what I listed above: movement to SUVs, growing population, and growing car ownership per capita. Timeframe: people demand decrease now. Not 20 years from now. That means you can't wait out mixed EV and Ice sales for 20 years. Policy: People talk as if Biden failed because has consumption is up. Ok last explanation. He implements the impossible policy of 100% EV sales in 4 years. The result? Gas consumption is the same. See 250 million cars explanation. And people yell that he failed and it's so easy. Reality is he succeeded and people don't understand the metrics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ok, I can see you aren't interested in debating this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

lol and now I see that you want to debate rather than seeking information like you initially said. Yeah that explains things.