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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I honestly can't tell if these .ml guys in these discussions are trolling or just spouting retarded nonsense and calling everyone a Nazi for the sake of it

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hey, no judgement, but we're trying to cut down use of the r-term around here, as a courtesy to those who it's been used to unfairly hurt. Just for future reference.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

And on and on the euphemism train goes, where's the next stop? There's going to be a slur for the mentally deficient, tell me which one you endorse.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

None. Don't insult people over stuff they can't control. Call them ignorant shitheads not ugly/retarded/etc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So shithead is the new slur for mental deficiency?

Is that what you call unintelligent uneducated indoctrinated rural people who piss you off with zealotry and hate?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ignorance is not a disability, it's a choice. So no, it's not a slur for mental deficiency.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

First of all, resorting to insults, great show of intelligence.

Second of all, if you need me to explain to you the difference between ignorance and stupidity, or the average bigot and people with actual mental disability then you have some catching up to do before we can discuss this topic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Stupidity begets ignorance and hostility. And yeah, I'm being a little hostile.

But as far as I've seen, effectively preventing insults from moderately to very intelligent people are things like social, professional and academic consequences, or just being in good company. Even then, friends can insult eschother. And otherwise, they're not exactly verbally puritan.

But in certain progressive spaces, you've become as stuck up and sensitive as old nobility. You people are awful to talk to. You make yourselves very hard to tolerate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Dunno, based on my 30+ years of experience, I'd say I'm pretty tolerable. Ever considered you might be the problem?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

A tad derivative, don't ya think?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thank goodness you’re here. Next thing you know, somebody is going to ask ME to be polite too!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Censorship isn't asked. It's just enforced.

When you can't be mean, you can't really speak your mind about people you hate. Like political figures, and certain moderators.

Right now it seems I'm not being shut up. I guess it's up to you whether or not to shut me up.

Just know that a lot of the people that get shut out of "decent" places are people you meet outside, and they've been getting weird the last few years. I'm gonna argue it's causative. It doesn't exactly feel great to be permanently banned. It's not very normal or human. It's exile at a handwave. No warmth, no humanity.

But you think I'm cold and cruel and awful because I call stupid people retarded, or I guess shitheads now.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Not fond of George Carlin, I see.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Nevermind, I've learned that the new R-word is shithead. Seems more vulgar and insulting but whatever, that's fine.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

I wonder how many of them work in russia and china. their shittakes are hilariously tanky

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I kind of wish they are trolling and we're dumb for taking the bait. I mean it's unlikely as I've met true believers (both Nazi and tanky) before IRL and these people sound exactly the same, but who knows.