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[–] [email protected] 115 points 4 months ago (5 children)

They killed Splatoon's grassroots Esport community thanks to them making a quick buck with splatoon 3, that promised a bunch of network functionality improvements that never materialized.

So now, a game that used to have multiple small but growing international tournaments now has nothing. Hell, they used to have tournaments on the main stage at PAX East.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 4 months ago (2 children)

They've been shutting down Smash Bros tournaments as well.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

How they treated professional Melee and especially Project M was the moment I realized Nintendo was just another out-of-touch company. So many indie devs would kill for fans that passionate, let alone a modding scene that robust. Nintendo threw it all away.

Edit: and that ignores the graveyard of fan games Nintendo has killed. AM2R, Pokémon Uranium...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah this was my first moment also and largely why I will never pay for NSO+. How they treat the esport community is crazy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I recommend going the extra mile and no longer buying their hardware or software.

Emulation is in a great state right now, and it's only getting better. The fewer resources scummy companies like Nintendo have from sales, the fewer resources they'll have to go after community products.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Really hoping this isn't a 3DS situation where they added a notch to gamecarts. Its so dumb that we can't use game consoles like a PC and just fucking install discs if we want to without a shitty checking system.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Ok but like... given what I was hearing from those scenes that was probably for the best

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Never got into Splatoon but it looked like great fun and kind of perfect for low-stakes competition.

Fucks sake Nintendo

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

It's a great game with a very high skill ceiling, but the MMR and team balancing was absolute garbage. It was very rare that it was a close match. You usually clapped or got clapped.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I never understood why they abandoned Splatoon 2. Like, I get that they have a new game, and that's great, I guess.....but why not support Splatoon 2 until Switch 2 comes out? I never bought the splatoon 3, because I JUST bought splatoon 2 like 2-3 years prior when it came out. You NEED online to play that game.

So you're paying $59.99 for the game, and then $20 a year for online. All for a game that exists in a time bubble. Once it's time for the next game, fuck you. Buy the new game. Your old game means nothing.

Well fuck you too Nintendo. I'll just not buy Splatoon 3, and not pay for online anymore. How about that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So you’re paying $59.99 for the game

You mean $60.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Good job doing their dirty work for them.

Prices only end in .99 to fool people like you into thinking products cost less than they actually do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

No, I'm not fooled about the price. It costs exactly $59.99 + local tax. Saying it costs $60 is overstating it's price by $0.01.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As one of the leaders in said community for the NA scene I wouldn't lay the blame entirely on Splat3. Things were slowing down before then and a lot of the old guard were hanging up their hats.

Networking left much to be desired, but we also started the grassroots on the Wii U after all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Fair, I have connections to a few that were fairly serious during 2, most of which were in tournies, one of those never bought 3, but the rest gave it a shot.

The ripoff that is S3 seems to be nails in the proverbial coffin.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah the transition between games was hard. 1 to 2 was ok-ish as there was excitement on the switch. 2 to 3 was rough as the average comp player was between high school and college aged which had less disposable income to get the game right away. Not to mention each time was a hard reset on both maps and equipment that slowly rolled out over time made getting cohesive teams extra hard..

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

that promised a bunch of network functionality improvements that never materialized.

Holy fuck, why do the multi-billion dollar companies need to wait until their 3rd game to have decent netcode?

Edit: And apparently even that wasn't enough, because it "never materialized."