[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Almost like "tankies" don't have some religious reverence for "authority" but in fact specifically believe it should be directed in a certain way . . .

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

It's also an article by Foreign Policy because I didn't want to get into a spat about sourcing. Mostly it applies to businesses, not people, and unsubstantiated words like "draconian" are doing a lot of heavy lifting. FP likes to obfuscate that fact, but you can see even in what you quoted that they tip their hand on the rhetorical contortions they are doing when they list:

These are often enforced by multiple agencies pursuant to joint punishment agreements covering such sectors as taxation, the environment, transportation, e-commerce, food safety, and foreign economic cooperation, as well as failing to carry out court judgments.

hmm, what do these things all have in common? They all apply overwhelmingly or virtually-exclusively to businesses! E-commerce can, without further elaboration, apply to peer-to-peer interactions like on ebay, and "court judgement" is a similarly vague term, but you don't get some normal private citizen on charges related to "food safety," "foreign economic cooperation," or -- based on it not being titled "traffic law" or whatever -- "transportation", and the overwhelming majority of both tax payment and tax fraud is done by the rich.

There is a social credit system for businesses, and their should be. Reddit memes about "-20 billion social credit score" for posting a meme with lego tanks has no place in reality.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Ha, fair question! They have plenty of people they dislike, but what I was trying to refer to was their opposition to what they call "tankies" and I call "People who believe that the US lies about its enemies, particularly its big geopolitical rivals." Specifically, while they are conversationally annoying about it, what really bugs me is their campaign to defederate and get others to defederate from spaces they deem "tankie-friendly". I think that really undermines the platform as a whole to pillarize things that way (i.e. closing things off into silos).

"Sectarianism" arguably isn't the right word for that (it has intra-ideology connotations), but I didn't think it was worth splitting hairs over.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

I'm the first one to say that an uncritical and crassly-applied "free speech" ideology is deleterious, but it's the First Amendment that doesn't apply, not the concept of Free Speech itself. Under the Constitution, you are free not to apply the concept of Free Speech yourself since the First Amendment doesn't apply to your moderation, but that does not answer the question of whether you should or not.

Of course, my answer is that some speech is worth protecting and some is not and questions of natural rights have nothing to do with that, so the chauvinistic redditors posting social credit score memes that were tired years ago and thoroughly debunked don't need a platform, but that's just my take on the matter.

Oh yeah, and the "orc" meme is clearly racist, but that's why I worded my original question the way I did.

Thank you for your time and have a good day.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Thank you for letting me know. I always forget about that because I can see their replies. In any case, I'm more worried about what the people on lemmy.world think, since Beehaw has basically become a purpose-built engine of sectarianism, so the content of those replies would be a foregone conclusion.

I'll try to remember to use my lemmy.ml account in the future for this.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Also this only really applies to German citizens. We saw a recent study in this when a Ukrainian diplomat went on a German podcast and denied part of the Holocaust, and no criminal proceeding followed (consistent with established law). I think the platform itself was fine because the host firmly pushed back on it with historical evidence instead of idly platforming him, though he was still allowed to express his views to his content.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

A lot of those insinuations come from neoliberals who are mad that neoliberalism isn't given privileged treatment there like it is on Reddit.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Do you really need to be so disingenous about this? The entire thread is oozing with the slime of Reddit culture and you think no one can figure out that you're calling Russians orcs? Do you know where that cute little turn of phrase comes from?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

It's already too late for that. Without assessing why it happened on Reddit and how it should be stopped, there is no reason to believe it would not be reproduced here. It was not assessed, let alone stopped, and thereby has been reproduced.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

There are a few assumptions here. One: Criticism (in the context you mention) implies a desire to see the object of discussion improved rather than destroyed. Two: Criticism of "governments in general" rather than specifically one's own government is vital to democracy. Three: That moderation is being done based around whether something is criticism or not rather than it being backed by evidence or not.

As applied to our situation, all of these are overwhelmingly false and one need only look at this thread to understand that.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

The Manifesto was written initially in German by two Germans, though Engels was a polyglot so he probably did several translations himself, at least the English and French ones.

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