I wonder how long it’ll take the BND to identify them all. It would be a priority, given how their anonymous statement would render them constitutionally unsuitable to serve.
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Actually not unlikely that they’ll try identifying the people given that German institutions are infiltrated by literal Nazis. Actually, they have never have been properly removed in the first place.
Needless to say being a nazi is something that renders you constitutionally unsuitable to serve, not being against a genocide.
If you think you're violating your constitutional oath, you gotta stop drop and roll, not sign an anonymous letter.
People: Do good thing while risking their jobs.
Internet commenter: "What an awful thing, I surely would do more in that situation."
I agree that more should happen, but I applaud these people for what they're doing.
I'm making an ethical must statement, not an ethical ought statement. If you believe you're carrying out orders as a civil servant that violate your constitutional oath like they state in the letter you must resign. There's no gray area there.
Which will result in only those remaining which are complicit. This is clearly a negative outcome. 1. For the people resigning, as resigning didn't advance their cause, but made the situation worse. 2. For society, because it made the institution less trustworthy.
If you're carrying out orders in knowing violation of your constitutional oath you are complicit and the institution is inherently corrupt.
Don't try to use your power to make things better, RESIGN so only the corrupt have power. Then you can say "I did the right thing" as things get worse and worse as every ethical person no longer has any power or authority.
You're not using power to make things better in that case. You're ACTUALLY using power to make things worse by following unconstitutional orders. But you feel bad about it.
I love how you can't even begin to understand the concept that "if all the people who feel bad about hurting others LEAVE positions of power, the only people left with power are those who don't feel bad"
It's not about understanding. I'm explicitly stating that it's a distinction without a difference. I know exactly what you're saying and I'm telling you it doesn't matter. There is no functional disparity if the result is the same.
The German Power elites never really stopped thinking the same as they did in the "old days" even while the rest of the population actually moved on into the XXI Century.