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The Associated Press spoke with five officers and one soldier who deserted the Russian military. All have criminal cases against them in Russia, where they face 10 years or more in prison. Each is waiting for a welcome from the West that has never arrived. Instead, all but one live in hiding.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You need to give these people a way out. If you create a way for people to escape military service a lot of people would take it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Surrender is a legitimate way out.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There’s a difference between surrender and defection.

Soldiers who surrender are afforded protections and retain ties to their countries. After hostilities resolve or if a prisoner transfer is arranged, they return to their country and generally do not face punishment. At least according to Geneva conventions on lawful war. It’s rarely this simple and clean.

Soldiers who defect have few, if any, protections and are in a weird place with nationality. They are typically considered fugitives by their home countries and may or may not be able to travel internationally as they may also be stateless.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope they get help. But just to clarify: wouldn't you be tried for deserting any army?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By your home country sure. They’d have to extradite you for that to happen. Russia doesn’t have that many friends, so defectors may be able to get away with it as long as they never enter a Russian-friendly state ever again

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That russian pilot got murdered in Spain.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Countries aren't too fond of assassinations on their own turf. Russia seems to do these things more than any other country (at least as reported in the news), but it's still pretty rare.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Dang, that's lame.