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What happens in November is up to Biden – it will not be the fault of the protest voter if Trump is elected. The questions remain: does the Democratic party fear Trump as much as we do? And does it value its voters enough to shift away from an approach to the onslaught in Gaza that a majority of Democratic voters are against?

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

it will not be the fault of the protest voter if Trump is elected. The questions remain: does the Democratic party fear Trump as much as we do?

If you fear him, why would you not assist in preventing his rise?

If you give a shit about Palestine, why would you not support the better candidate for them? You think Trump will do anything to make this situation better?

The logical fallacy at play here is so glaring I can't believe these journalists are willing to put their name to it.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Glad to see the goldfish memory of voters who missed what happened the last 4 times this has happened. I'm sure it'll fix it this time and isn't just a recurring right-wing strategy to alienate voters on the left with propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They can't remember further back than the last media cycle, and the can't think forward further than a week.

I guarantee at least some, likely all of these people were fucking pissed about the death of Roe. They learned nothing. Absolutely nothing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You know what's worse than denial of the right to choose? Genocide. That's what we got for electing Joe Biden last time. Fool me once, etc, etc.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (14 children)

... completely ignoring the only other option was "even more genocide than that". We didn't get genocide because we elected Joe Biden. We got genocide because right wingers in Israel want to conduct a genocide. Removing Biden from the equation and replacing him with Trump does not improve the situation. Doing that would be the actual foolish move.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

You have the intellect of a 14 year old.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (38 children)

I mean... If your goal is to end a genocide and you help get a guy who said "finish the job" elected, yeah, it is your fault.

Let us not pretend otherwise.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (30 children)

What happens in November is up to Biden – it will not be the fault of the protest voter if Trump is elected.

If Trump is elected, I will blame both Biden AND the protest voter.

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[–] xePBMg9 18 points 1 year ago

If you would otherwise vote for donald; go ahead and do the protest vote.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah thats what we are saying.

and if both options mean genocide (or one is only less bad about it, whatever that means) them its time to reconsider if you truly live in a democracy

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

US democracy is weak. With first past the post voting, a two party system is inevitable. But not voting Biden because he is "genocidal" is the dumbest excuse ever.

Fight to change the voting system, but don't fight it by getting a literal fascist elected. Because that's what you are responsible for if you don't vote.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (8 children)

What's dumb is putting "genocidal" in scare quotes and acting like genocide is not actually that big of a deal. I won't vote for Biden or Trump because I value my vote too much to give it to an evil scumbag, red or blue. I'll vote for Jill Stein or Cornel West.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So Trump it is then. Good look with your genocide then.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

No it's going to be their fault. If we lose Social Security, Medicare, public schooling, basically every social safety net, any regulatory power the government has, and a right to free and fair elections then that will absolutely be on them. They've said that those things don't matter to them in this scenario. If you're for the destruction of all that then fuck you. It's pretty simple.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It won't be the protest voters fault of Trump is elected but it would be something they could have prevented. Four more years of radical conservative judge appointments would create generations of degradation of women and minority group rights.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Anyone against voting uncommitted supports genocide, plain and simple. There's no other explanation, Biden doesn't even lose anything from those votes, it just let's him know that his base is pissed about him supporting genocide. Vote uncommitted or for a less zionist candidate, if you don't or you're against this then your position on Gaza is clear. What other reason would there be to oppose that?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

They are delusional and claiming it's someone else's fault if Trump is elected is the pinnacle of idiocy.

Consequences

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