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  • Twitch on Friday will end the contracts for all members of its Safety Advisory Council, a resource made up of industry experts, streamers and moderators, who consulted on trust and safety issues.
  • The council has advised Twitch on “drafting new policies and policy updates,” “developing products and features to improve safety and moderation” and “protecting the interests of marginalized groups,” per a company webpage.
  • On May 6, council members were called into a meeting after receiving an email that all existing contracts would conclude on May 31, 2024, and that they would not receive payment for the second half of 2024.
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[–] [email protected] 110 points 9 months ago (2 children)

totally normal behavior for an organization /j

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago

Kind of seems that way lately.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If safety is in the way of a slight increase in profit and there are no expensive legal consequences, safety has to go. And companies like X are testing how far you can go without consequences.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

There are consequences for X. Advertisers are pulling out and it's becoming increasingly unpalatable for companies and people to use, and so its user base is not exactly growing rapidly (although I have no evidence to say it is shrinking).

[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They're going to replace them with an AI powered tool, aren't they? If they're going to replace them at all that is.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They've done that already. I've actually gotten banned twice because their AI tool thought I was harassing a streamer. Both reversed almost immediately after an appeal. Guess those appeals may no longer have people responding to them...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Just appeal to another AI - two of them can't be wrong at the same time, I'm sure of it!

[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Important: The article mentions that they are being replaced not that the SAC is being done away with completely.

On the other hand:

Twitch declined to comment on whether the [new council members] would be paid.

The text I replaced there is "ambassadors", that is, Twitch ambassadors, people given a title that means nothing outside of Twitch, but is the only payment these people will be getting, outside, perhaps, a sense of pride and accomplishment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Haven't seen that meme in a while lol kudos

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago

[Sarcasm] See, they really do care about us! They care so much they're unhiring everyone whose job it was to pretend they care about us! Twitch is a great company and not an evil ball of shit! I respect Amazon and its owned companies and subsidiaries and whatnot because I know they respect me!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

The joke about corporations realizing they can stop doing "diversity hires" really is true isn't it? They can do whatever they want, their giant team of lawyers will protect the bottom line no matter what.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

if I know anything about advisory councils in tech it was pure optics and letting them all go will have absolutely zero impact on the normal flow of business beside the current bad press.

I would love to know if they ever affected company policy even slightly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

This is correct. Some of them were straight up just twitch mods/partners being paid "$10,000 and $20,000 per 12-month period". So why not just convert to all twitch ambassadors and not pay them since they will do it for free.

https://safety.twitch.tv/s/article/Safety-Advisory-Council?language=en_US

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

protecting the interests of marginalized groups

What does this even mean? Unless not caring hurts their bottom line, why should Twitch care?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I guess it was a PR problem with the "me too" and "black lives matter" movements going around. But since trump and the republican party are openly being sexist racist bigots, there's no need to pretend to care.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

It doesn’t. For a little while they had that group in place as they watched the business landscape in case they got sued. Now their legal team has advised that it’s no longer necessary, and they will save money by cutting it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Hm, glad I was informed that my Twitch account was deleted a week ago.