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I have started learning LaTeX (about to dive back in actually) as I edit my thesis together into something that resembles something more than a ranting tangent. It is scratching my probable undx autism obsession itch hella hard. Overleaf is actually a really great tool when you have purpose.
I like Overleaf but it completely fucked up the LaTeX templates my university provided.
Fortunately mine already had one on there, unofficially. It works!
I've spend so much time on learning latex instead of writing my thesis haha (in my department no one ever even heard of latex). But yes, same with the autism connection. It's just so nice to have a certain structure and order in everything :)
PowerPoint is ridiculously capable, like to an unnecessary degree.
Office is solid
Excel and Powerpoint are solid. And Powerpoint gets a bad reputation because it entice users to do things they shouldn't do.
The rest of MS Office is a piece of shit.
Could use libre office
Nope. LO Impress doesn't support inline equations, something quite annoying if you're going to prepare slides for scientific stuff.
Just latex to svg your math for impress.
For real though, it's such a miss for impress to not have in line math
Powerpoint is what made me originally vow to try to never use word or powerpoint again, about 15 years ago. I was making a mathematically-dense presentation and became so frustrated with it that I wanted to throw my computer out the window. I still was somewhat new to latex at the time but figured there had to be some way to make presentations in latex. Found beamer and have never used pp for a real presentation again.
Yeah I don't like Microsoft but like Office, I just run offline pirated version of their main programs. It's like how I avoid Google for 70% of options but absolutely love Google Maps and Google Translate.
I haven't used Google translate since I discovered Deepl, and it gets better all the time
I mean, it's okay.... I feel like I run into inconveniences in MSO every day. Off the top of my head (solutions welcome):
- Absurd startup times for opening documents. Worse if there isn't an instance of the app already open. Part of the blame goes to my company's antivirus software, but Excel and PowerPoint are easily my slowest-starting apps, and Word is the runner-up. All UI animations are also stupidly slow, though I think that was a design choice.
- A pasted graphic goes to the center of the slide in ppt regardless of the current zoom or view. Annoying for making large posters, exacerbated by delayed rendering of lots of graphics.
- Likewise, zooming occurs relative to slide's center, not the current zoomed view or from the mouse pointer.
- No easily accessibly horizontal scroll outside of using a touchpad (i.e., scrollbar only). Tilting the mouse wheel (if I even have access to such a mouse) either doesn't work or only slightly nudges the view. Also makes posters tedious in combination with pasting issue. Something like shift+mousewheel would be nice.
- Dragging a scroll bar does not update the view until you release it.
- Sometimes the amount of space between a bullet point and text in a PPT text box changes when all others are remain the same. Possibly a skill issue related to styles. Still frustrating.
- Dragging objects autoaligns them to seemingly everything except what I want it to. I now run with snapping turned off.
- Pasting charts between documents changes to destination formatting/styling by default.
- Pasting text from external sources keeps formatting by default. Never have I ever wanted to copy a web page's or email's font, color, and size into my own docs. I could have sworn that there were also circumstances where ctrl+alt+v doesn't work properly, but I can't seem to remember/reproduce that at the moment.
- Dates in Excel. It's a meme, but also true.
- Excel seems to have a "root" window (the doc opened first), and it does not play nice with virtual desktops. If you try to open a spreadsheet from Windows Explorer or some other app (e.g. web browser) on VD B while the root window is on VD A, you are forcibly switched to VD A, where the doc actually opens (after a complimentary delay, of course). Then I have to find the freaking window in Task View and move it back to VD B. There is a reason I wasn't adding more windows to VD A to begin with. Incidentally Word and other MSO apps do not have this issue for some reason.
- If one doc window freezes/stops responding, they all do.
- Aligning things in Word
- A few common color palettes are not colorblind-friendly.
Do you have an alternative to suggest?
For the general user? Not really, I'm just venting :) I have the unsubstantiated, possibly irrational belief that MSO UX ought to be far more polished after having existed for so long. Like you said, most of my frustrations have workarounds, even if they are buried or tedious (though the tedium is part of my contention).
For making slides or posters, someone in school recommended to lay out a poster or each slide completely in ChemDraw (basically a specialized, widely used vector-based WYSIWYG editor for organic chemistry) and paste the lot onto a PPT slide. That works reasonably well and makes everything have a consistent look, especially since most slides of mine contain chemdraws of molecules anyway. ChemDraw does have its own warts and somewhat limited functionality beyond drawing molecules and text. Also, since like 2019 the rendering and UI have gotten so much slower. For posters and basic diagraming, I currently use Inkscape, pasting things as needed. Inkscape also has its quirks, but its interface is so much more powerful and the UI so much more responsive than either ChemDraw or PPT that it is the clear winner for me. Though, it is also not winning any startup races.
For Excel, you're unfortunately correct; there is no suitable WYSIWYG spreadsheet replacement. While I can do essentially all of the typical numerical hacking I do in Excel with (IMO) a better experience in LibreOffice Calc, it falls down when I need to show it to someone else. The charting in Calc is lackluster, and it doesn't play nice with Office file formats. Also, my workplace (though not me personally) makes heavy use of Excel UI + VBA + fortran (!) DLLs for reactor modeling...
LO Writer is probably the closest to Word in usability, but compatibility with Word files is still subpar, mostly to do with styling and formatting. Both are bloated for probably 50% of my use (e.g., writing up informal procedures or meeting minutes). Wordpad (RIP) is nice in that regard.
it used to be a direct menu item but now it is quite buried....
My colleague swears that UI in MSO before Office 2007 was so much better, but I can't comment much on that.
I don't use gVim, but for work stuff that I don't have to share (mosly just notes), I use markdown in Obsidian w/ vi mode :) It's not FOSS and Electron is bloat, but it is really slick, and my boss approved expensing the $50 seat license for business. I might check out logseq in the future, but Obsidian was a lot more mature back when I was looking around. My only beef is that Markdown doesn't natively support sub/superscripts, which are kinda important for chemistry. Most editors implement extensions, but they're not always portable.
What's your issue with showing libreofficd spreadsheets to others?
The sheets themselves are usually unproblematic, but the charts often don't render properly when viewed in MSO. This is relevant because the other party usually does not have LO installed.