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Why is crypto.subtle.digest designed to return a promise?

Every other system I've ever worked with has the signature hash(bytes) => bytes, yet whatever committee designed the Subtle Crypto API decided that the browser version should return a promise. Why? I've looked around but I've never found any discussion on the motivation behind that.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

It executes on a native thread in the background. That way it doesn't stall the Javascript execution loop, even if you give it a gigabyte of data to hash.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s standard for operations that take a while and can be performed asynchronously.

What’s your problem with it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

async/await infecting all of my code, being unable to create a get myField() method that involves a hash calculation. It may be standard to do heavy lifting concurrently, but async hash functions are certainly not standard in any of the languages I've used (which is quite a few).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

From browsing your other comments on this thread I understand that you are in a context where you can’t await, that you expect the invocation to take very little time, and that the library offers no complementary sync interface.

As far was I know you’re stuck in this case. I consider the stubborn refusal to add “resolve this promise synchronously right now” a major flaw in js.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Given the nature of JS running only on a single thread. Promises/asynchronity is the only way to keep the browser from locking up.

Thus insisting on any other way is a major flaw in the developer not the language.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thus insisting on any other way is a major flaw in the developer not the language.

I mean, I understand the idea, but this is a pretty asshole way to frame it. I don’t think I deserve that, and certainly OP doesn’t deserve that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

@DmMacniel @vzq

> Given the nature of JS running only on a single thread.

No no, I think you found the language flaw.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

its a good idea to be as non blocking as possible especially on time and resource consuming tasks like IO, cryptography, ...

just use await in an async function.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

just use await in an async function.

Sure, I'll just put await and async everywhere. Oh wait, I can't. A constructor can't be async so now I need to restructure my code to use async factories instead of constructors. Wonderful...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

A constructor can't be async so now I need to restructure my code to use async factories instead of constructors

It sounds like you’re trying to do OOD/OOP. In js that’s usually not the way to go. You might want to restructure into a more functional architecture anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like an architectural issue to begin with. A constructor shouldn't do the heavy lifting to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You consider calculating the hash of a few bytes to be heavy lifting?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

The API doesn't restrict the amount of bytes to be hashed. So yeah it's still heavy lifting.

Trigger a loading event after the constructor is finished that the view model takes to calculate your hash.