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Why are we continuing to use biased language?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The term feminism does essentialize the advocating for the equal rights of women (this is good actually), but it is also important to note that while this is a feminist community, this community is not about feminism. This community is about men and their specific liberation from oppressive gender roles and stereotypes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

The reason I'm not a feminist is because while feminism says it advocates for equal rights for women, in actuality it's advocating for more power for women.

When women are unfairly discriminated against (which is most of the time), fighting for more power for women is equivalent in outcome to fighting for equal rights. But in those situations where men get the short end of the stick, feminism is supremely unconcerned.

Feminism is not concerned with equality. It is concerned with better outcomes for women. It's a subtle but important difference. And it means it's an ideology that as a man I can mostly support but cannot subscribe to. Feminism does not care that the vast majority of workplace deaths are men. Feminism does not care that boys are failing school at unprecedented rates. It's not their issue, and that's fine, but don't pretend feminism is for everyone. BLM is sympathetic to Indian rights movements but it is not their issue. LGBT+ groups are sympathetic to unions but it is not their issue.

My struggles as a man are not feminism's issue. And that's fine. But we shouldn't pretend otherwise. We need our own group, separate from feminism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Non feminist male communities tend to devolve into misogynistic places. What exactly is your problem with feminism, except the name?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism

"Feminism holds the position that societies prioritize the male point of view and that women are treated unjustly in these societies."

It's not about equality if it favors one sex over the other.

You never see feminists complaining about the draft or female employment in sanitation industries, for example.

Trying to conflate "feminism" with "equality among the sexes" is just a subversive tactic used by feminists to fool men into thinking they care about injustices towards men.

They don't. In fact, most of them proudly laugh if anyone even mentions something along the lines of "injustices towards men."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

"If you are used to privilige, equality feels like a threat"

I could write a lot more on how and why, but this sums it up nicely.