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Enshittification

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What is enshittification?

The phenomenon of online platforms gradually degrading the quality of their services, often by promoting advertisements and sponsored content, in order to increase profits. (Cory Doctorow, 2022, extracted from Wikitionary) source

The lifecycle of Big Internet

We discuss how predatory big tech platforms live and die by luring people in and then decaying for profit.

Embrace, extend and extinguish

We also discuss how naturally open technologies like the Fediverse can be susceptible to corporate takeovers, rugpulls and subsequent enshittification.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (8 children)

So if the ad is injected directly into the stream does that mean users don't need an ad blocker and can just fast forward through the ads? I'm fine with that.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)

If it’s part of the video, and one can always skip in videos, couldn’t people skip this as well?

If they use some blocking, then ad blockers will just become skip enablers.

Having to fast forward a bit when you click on the video seems doable. But what if they put it at random spots in the vid?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm curious how this will affect creators. Now it is very obvious when YouTube is displaying an ad vs the content creator doing an ad read. If it becomes less obvious where the ad is coming from by injecting it into the stream, I wonder if they're hoping to shift some of the perception of excessive ads off of them.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

This isn't really representative of how server side ad injection works, it doesn't imply anything being different about the UI when it comes to ads. Many of your favorite streaming apps use SSAI, you still get the ad indicators.

It's just that the content and the ads are both coming from the same source, so that makes it challenging to block ads by deny-listing ad serving domains, the same infrastructure is serving both.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

Wow, thanks youtube that's so cool.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (35 children)

Stop this tantrum throwing and just buy premium.

Hosting/streaming videos is not free.

If you watch yt at least 10 hours a month then it's good deal.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

Youtube is already being paid in my data and I support the creators I watch already. So no thanks.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

Thing is, ads are fine, ads that are mandatory and break the experience are antithetical to the very notion of user centric media. This is not a linear broadcast medium.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

it is not about the money. i refuse to watch youtube while logged in, because google is a company that doesn't respect people's privacy

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If google was taking like ten or twenty percent off the top after creators collected their money, I would do this in a heartbeat. The simple fact is I don’t want to give every cent of my money to google while legitimate artists don’t get paid. Especially when they do everything they can to NOT pay those artists now.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

YouTube's also been experimenting with built-in sponsorblock for Premium subscribers, which I find weird.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Honest question: why isn't video distributed like podcasts?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Youtube trying not to show ads for 2 seconds(impossible).

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Okay, so what we now need is a browser plugin that skips ahead 15 or 30 seconds, mapped to a hotkey.

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