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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Girl gets married

Girl gets shitfaced and sleeps with someone other than her husband

Girl is pregnant!

Girl makes up some dumb shit to avoid jealous rage

Shit gets waaaaay out of hand.

There are many Jesus's in the world.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

A far more likely explanation for the age and time was that she was raped.

Not that things have changed much.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (4 children)

No. He is not a historical figure like, say, Muhammad or Caesar.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (9 children)

if you found a corpse it would cause a lot of problems for the religion.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

The only physical proof you can have of a person that lived before photography is a body. So no, Jesus did not have a publically marked grave and we do not have his bones.

That being said, there is a difference between proving something historically and proving it in the court of law. Historical evidence points to Jesus having been a person that lived around that time.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The only evidence of Jesus, is a few random mentions of someone named Jesus.

And it wasn't exactly a rare name.

Like, if I found written evidence of a dude named Paul, that doesn't mean Paul Bunyan was real.

It just means some dude named Paul was real.

All the crazy claims about being a Messiah wasnt until long after he was dead.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

This isn't really right. The primary texts corroborate more facts than the name: that he was put to death by the Romans for inciting disloyalty.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

No, Jesus never existed. He is a fictional character.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

It seems like the consensus is that the stories probably stem from a real guy because that's deemed more likely than no person existing as a basis for the story, but no, there is not material evidence for jesus christ's existence

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

There's the Talpiot Tomb

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talpiot_Tomb

It might not be him but also it might.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (8 children)

This conclusion, while weakly supported by a statistical analysis of the names involved, is rejected by most archaeologists, theologians, linguistic and biblical scholars.

There's a bunch of references for archaeologists debunking it.

I know you said "it might not be him" but I feel like that understates the weight of evidence against that possibility.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

There most likely were a bunch of people called Yeshua back then.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

https://www.history.com/news/was-jesus-real-historical-evidence

Tl;dr: No.

My opinion: It's a nice story. And with stories the most important thing is what it teaches us or makes us feel. Not that it's true. Maybe they took inspiration from several preaching hippies who lived back then and made one story out of that. Exaggerated everything and made stuff up. Probably all of it because the bible was't even written close to his supposed lifetime. It'd be like you now writing a story about a dude who died in ~~1870~~. Without any previous records to get information from. [Edit: The first things have probably been written down like 40-50 years after his death.]

And I mean if Jesus existed, he would certainly disapprove of what people do (and did) in his name.

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