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[–] rrrurboatlibad@lemdro.id 77 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It is a bummer that you are feeling financially stressed, but the price of things won't get better by electing a felon. His stated policies will make things worse

[–] KillingAndKindess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 10 months ago (3 children)

There's the kicker. Cause I firmly believe that, with more education (not indoctrination) by itself, conservativism would be made up entirely of the lowest 10% of intelligence, and those in the upper 0.5% of wealth (well, those who aren't already included from the former).

Cause no way in hell do this many regular average people care that greatly about the latest week's GOP bullshit. Not a chance. Its fear that motivates them to seek a solution, but lack of education that makes it so effective at falling for.

We gotta live with them, so we better figure out how to teach adults who don't have to be in school for years. Or learn how to live with needing to kill or exile them.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well part of the plan is to attack public school funding sooooo…

[–] KillingAndKindess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I won't claim its all a grand plan or conspiracy, though I do think thats totally possible.

Its really just a time-tested quality of societial power struggles, it might very well be just a shitty coincidence.

[–] Fenderfreek@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s absolutely a grand plan, and they’ve even written it all down. It’s called project 2025, and it’s their carefully engineered play by play for exactly this and more.

It is currently, but education of the current voting populace began, and began to fail, long before 2025.

Believe me, i'm accutely aware of 2025. I'm preparing as best as my homeless trans ass can atm, in case me and my chosen peeps feel it best leave in a hurry.

And, while it spells out lots of shitty policy for the trumpers, I very seriously doubt that the concept isn't much more than an assembly of 1. Stating the obvious, and taking the reigns / credit for, the exploitations started by men who are long dead. 2. A group of groups/shakey collective, and their ideas on how to "take over" the government in a very "you won't believed this loophole" sort of way.

Is it possible they even mostly succeed? Abso-fucking-lutely, and I worry that its very very likely.

If the left, and those hurt by their own right leaders, cannot manage to stop this, within or outside of the government... and considering how so many opportunities to do that between now and then... then we deserve it. And i'll gtfo this place, or die trying if it comes to that.

But, given how trump post-election, no longer holds that weighty 2nd term value to the media and politicians alike, I suspect all that trump loyalty dramatically decease before midterms.

[–] goldenbough@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Don’t forget about racism and other bigotry 🎉!

[–] KillingAndKindess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Racism takes root out of people's fear, and that fear is genuine, although likely obscurred.

Fear that can lead to racism can just simply be a genuine "other race will hurt me" But I'd argue thats only true for the people starting out with the lowest of the low in mental capacity.

More often though, the fear that leads to racist values and occasionally genuine fear of another race is a fear of death.

All it takes is for someone a person holds in high enough reguard convincing them that death might be coming sooner because of "the others".

And death in the broadest sense of not just a loss of life, but also losing ones way of life. From there, you can point out whatever "others" you'd like, and the bigger the group you can simply define, the more efficient it is. And the dumber a person, the easier it happens.

I'd include bigotry, sexism, even greed boil down to that too.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

upper 0.5% of wealth

I don't think nobody out of the upper 0.1% of the US would gain by their policies (and those mostly vote against them), and 90% of the people in it would probably lose too. For the 0.01%, it's a matter of valuing short or long term gains and actual wealth as opposed to "Hah! Suffer you poor! I'm better than that!"

[–] db2@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

You think I care about 34 felonies

Your opinion is invalid. Thanks for playing.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

Where is the line drawn between a shitpost and a shit post?

[–] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 16 points 9 months ago

I agree. His 34 felonies are nothing compared to the damage he caused as President when COVID hit, leading to the inflation we are feeling today. Economists were warning us before COVID. In his first 2 years, Trump boosted the economy by using all of the economic tools that were typically reserved for emergencies when things were fine so that he could appear effective. Then, the tragedy that economists were worried about happened, and the only solution we had was to pump money (money printer go brrrrr) into the economy while Trump made the pandemic worse. So yeah, 34 felonies are negligible compared to the damage he caused with his short-sighted desperate policies to elicit admiration.

[–] kikutwo@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like you need to go on a diet and get a better job.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

OP needs to lay off the avocado toast for sure 🤣

[–] kikutwo@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

With the side of filet mignon lmao

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It doesn't matter which one is elected, neither of them give a shit about the working class; the prices won't change for the better either way. I wish President George Washington & Abraham Lincoln were reincarnated; Presidents who actually gave a shit.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Biden has lived much more like a regular person than Trump.

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

To bad Biden has completely changed than how he was when he was younger... If only he was elected a lot earlier in his career. Unfortunately, that's just not how it worked out. There used to be so much more passion behind his eyes, but now you only ever see that passion when he's talking about icecream. 😮‍💨

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

I’m really sorry that whoever tried to educate you failed so miserably.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 5 points 9 months ago

How are you spending so much? I spend half that on gas per week (rural area so I easily put 200-400 miles a week on the car) and your weekly grocery budget is about my monthly budget for a family of 4

[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

"It is a bummer that you feel financially stressed, particularly these last 4 years. But things could be worse! Somehow. Vote Biden in again & you'll see."

[–] Jaderick@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

Imagine wanting something to change and then voting for a right-wing explicitly stated Conservative Party.

[–] bobburger@fedia.io 16 points 10 months ago

Which Trump policy's do you expect to cause deflation significant enough to reduce your grocery bill?

Which Trump policy's do you expect to reduce your dependcy on owning a car so that you won't be at the mercy of oil companies, car manufacturers, and insurance companies in order to survive?

[–] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If only there were a third option...

Leave the sinking ship that is the US

[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

To leave the US isn't as easy in itself...to leave, and sever all financial ties, even moreso. I think you must renounce your US citizenship to stop paying income taxes. $2400 + any exit fees, for those with a little more built-up wealth.

Where to go, where to land, is another big question. Nerds with their remote working jobs can go anywhere, work from anywhere, and get their money. I am a blue collar laborer. Pros & cons to that, but it does physically limit where one can go & make a halfway successful, nice living.

I do believe the US is in decline. This could be a Rome type situation, where it is in decline for centuries. When you're at the top, there's a long way to fall. It might be best to position yourself accordingly, and not make any rash decisions.

[–] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was kinda hinting at voting for someone who isn't a senile old coot.

I haven't looked into US politics enough to know whether the third party is any option though.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It isn't. We really do have a two party system. Voting for a third party that's closer to your ideology just takes a vote away from the major party candidate that's the closest to it. We have several examples in the past where a third party candidate cost an election for the closest major party candidate, and zero examples where a third party candidate came close to winning. Roosevelt came by far the closest when he ran independent in 1912 and got 27% (which is why Wilson win).

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

President George Washington was the first and the last independent that won.

[–] lengau@midwest.social 1 points 9 months ago

As someone who immigrated to the US as a child, if leaving the US is even 10% as difficult for me as coming was for my parents, I don't think I'm capable of it despite having a fully remote job at a global company.