this post was submitted on 11 Jun 2023
872 points (100.0% liked)

Technology

38500 readers
1 users here now

A nice place to discuss rumors, happenings, innovations, and challenges in the technology sphere. We also welcome discussions on the intersections of technology and society. If it’s technological news or discussion of technology, it probably belongs here.

Remember the overriding ethos on Beehaw: Be(e) Nice. Each user you encounter here is a person, and should be treated with kindness (even if they’re wrong, or use a Linux distro you don’t like). Personal attacks will not be tolerated.

Subcommunities on Beehaw:


This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
 

As quoted from the linked post.

It looks like you’re part of one of our experiments. The logged-in mobile web experience is currently unavailable for a portion of users. To access the site you can log on via desktop, the mobile apps, or wait for the experiment to conclude.

This is separate from the API issue. This will actually BLOCK you from even viewing reddit on your phone without using the official app.

Archive.org link in case the post is removed.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230611224026/https://old.reddit.com/r/help/comments/135tly1/helpdid_reddit_just_destroy_mobile_browser_access/jim40zg/

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] BreakNeckJim@sh.itjust.works 100 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It's unbelievable how's user hostile all of these major site have become. I deleted my 11 year old Reddit account today and while it hurt a little it's important that we send a message and not use Reddit at least until they repeal this bullshit.

[–] NataliePortland@beehaw.org 54 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Same! I deleted my 10 year account. Kinda not even sad. It was going downhill for a while now. But hey I just created my own instance for gardeners called thegarden.land so now I have a new home to grow roots and thrive!

load more comments (11 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Sat@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's getting worse by the minute. I really really hope Lemmy usage picks up.

[–] sgt_fridge@beehaw.org 34 points 2 years ago (24 children)

It seriously is. I've been on the site for all of 30 mins now and I am loving it so much more than reddit

load more comments (24 replies)
[–] shellsharks@fedia.io 56 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Jeez. The speed at which I've gone from "man it sucks that Apollo is shutting down but I still really enjoy Reddit and will suffer the first-party client" to "wow, Reddit is really trying to destroy their service and it's probably best I don't invest any more time there" is insane... going to draft up some thoughts and a probable farewell message for my frequented subs and followers there. End of an era.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] duncesplayed@lemmy.one 51 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I hate when people use passive voice in these things. It's such a slimy way to try and avoid responsibility.

"We have blocked you from using a mobile browser." is the active voice. It includes a subject ("we") and a verb ("blocked"). It says that someone made a decision, executed that decision, and is responsible.

"It looks like ... ", " ... is currently unavailable" is so fucking weaselly and irresponsible. You are 100% a complete piece of shit if you ever say something like that. You are not responsible enough to handle a Wendy's drive-through order, let alone a large organization.

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] sparky@lemmy.pt 45 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Having already rather violently shot himself in both feet, spez has started aiming for his other body parts.

load more comments (11 replies)
[–] theDuesentrieb@feddit.de 41 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Damn now this is just next level bullshit. I thought that even if I can't use Infinity anymore I can still access reddit through a firefox mobile with adblock and privacy addons to make the ux somewhat bearable.

So..

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] flickertail@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Between this and Twitter, I feel like "enshittification" is really the word of the past year. It's incredible to watch these massive social networks completely turn on their users in the name of profit.

[–] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They were always going to. The pre-enshittification stage of a modern capitalist website consists of burning VC money to collect users to later exploit.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (5 replies)
[–] WaffleFriends@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Unbelievable. Are they actively trying to get as many people as possible to leave their platform all together?

[–] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 19 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Seems like it’s a race to become the most hated platform. Twitter started a bit earlier, but Reddit is catching up really well.

load more comments (5 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] hyperfocus@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Their approach here seems inherently broken. People aren't going to use the app they don't want to use.

[–] overlordror@beehaw.org 46 points 2 years ago (6 children)

15-year reddit veteran here. Spez thinks us old-timers are freeloaders for continuing to prefer old.reddit and the third-party apps. The truth is, that site is dead and what Lemmy offers now is closer to that original vision than current reddit ever will be. Reddit is Dead. Long live Lemmy.

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] AndrasKrigare@beehaw.org 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The harder they push their official app, the more sketched out by it I am.

[–] SterlingVapor@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's seriously disturbing from a mental health perspective. They're doing exactly the same things Facebook did that made it most damaging

The app always gives you something, it will add filler (in the form of front-page content) to your feed, changing the reward schedule and (very literally) training you to doom scroll longer with fewer posts you actually care about. It also gives the opportunity to shove something controversial in your face, which drives outrage based engagement

It also always gives you messages - if you didn't get actual replies, it gives you sub suggestions or puts random posts in your notifications to try to get you back in the app

They also been doing A/B testing to try to maximize in-app time

It's a literal recipe for addiction

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] AnatorRenator@programming.dev 32 points 2 years ago (7 children)

The more they push their shitty mobile app, the more people won't use it.

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] r3nder@beehaw.org 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reddit's unwavering stubbornness to continue spiraling is just plain sad. What a way to go.

[–] spoonful@beehaw.org 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Reddit had so much community favor too. The whole awards thing was born from people wanting support the website. If they really struggle to make money could have rolled out an optional subscription or something with a message that everyone would have fallen for. The incompetence is incredible.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] VindianaJones@beehaw.org 32 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Pretty disappointing to see something I've spent so much time with go down the tubes like this. I know that for a lot of people, Reddit has been dying for years, but I've stuck to old.reddit and my Android apps, and haven't looked at /r/all in a long, long time. I unsubscribed from all of the big/default subreddits, and just hang out in my happy subs where people (mostly) are people and aren't lunatics, and it's still been a nice place.

Killing the mobile apps is pretty much the last straw for me. I'm sure I'll still click on search results from Reddit sometimes, but I won't be logged in anymore and it will only be on a browser with ad-blocking and privacy features. There is no way I'm downloading their app.

If they were to go this route for all users, I would simply never use Reddit again on my phone. And yes, I'm in the minority, and yes, I know they don't care about losing me, but man, what a bummer.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] hardypart@feddit.de 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow, they're really putting some effort into alienating their user base. What a shame.

[–] sake@sopuli.xyz 23 points 2 years ago (7 children)

It's great news when the social media oligopoly shoots themselves in the foot.

So far I've tried:

  • Facebook = Diaspora
  • Irc = Matrix (Element)
  • Reddit = Lemmy
  • Twitter = Mastodon

Out of all the different federated solutions I've tried, I believe this one has the best chance to hit big. Diaspora didn't work because the network effect is too strong with Facebook. Same with Matrix and Mastodon. But reddit is pseudoanonymous platform, you are not here because of some specific people. It's actually somewhat a benefit when there are less people and you have more room for people to see the content you put out. And the quality of the discussion can be better when there are fewer people.

It's still likely that everyone will just go back to reddit but we have a good chance here. The Lemmy UI is actually better and more snappy for someone who has used old reddit all this time.

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] steakfries@lemmy.one 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I want to leave Reddit completely so bad. They're ruining such a good thing, I was a member for 13 years. I hope Lemmy kinda just naturally replaces it for me but I'm sure there's some stuff that's just the best to go to Reddit for, I hope that changes slowly and people start using Lemmy or something else. But hey im here and it feels pretty good. Feels kinda like when I found Reddit for the first time all those years ago. Hello everyone :)

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] LlamaSutra@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Elon and Donald taught everyone that when you start being a dick, double down on it.

Love how totally out of touch with human psychology these decision makers are.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] sweet@beehaw.org 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yikes this is so insane. I'm so sick of the ads and spyware laden apps. Once you look into that abyss it's hard to unsee it. It's uncomfortable to have every aspect of you monetized and viewed. It's unnatural man. I just started hardening my internet and device use this year.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] yankeebobo@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] saturas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 2 years ago

Well, that's actually fucking horrible. I would expect nothing less from Reddit tho...

[–] Master@beehaw.org 24 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Honestly, mobile browing (even using old.reddit) has been garbage for years because they detect your mobile OS and constantly try to push their app on you. Click on link, do you want to open in mobile app? let me open the playstore for you. And then you also get limited comments. To see more comments open in mobile app... You could do a case study in how to alienate your customers into leaving your platform on just mobile browsing reddit.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Sintamo@beehaw.org 24 points 2 years ago (47 children)

It's one thing to test a new idea or a UX tweak or similar on a small portion of users - but just turning off a key way to access your service is so just so weird to me. How many of Reddit's decisions at this point are some version of, "hey, how angry do they get? What can we get away with?"

load more comments (47 replies)
[–] communist@beehaw.org 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Reddit finding ways to actively make things worse, while lemmy rapidly improves.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] crowscall@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (8 children)

They're really trying to speedrun killing their site lmao

load more comments (8 replies)
[–] martini1992@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's like they're trying to kill the platform

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] 7eter@feddit.de 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

GLaDOS-Voice: This test chamber involves heavy ad-tracking and how test subjects react when locked in a shitty mobile app.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Monthly_Vent@beehaw.org 22 points 2 years ago (9 children)

What were they thinking doing this experiment in the heat of the third-party app protest?? Are they trying to aim for their foot?

load more comments (9 replies)
[–] cryball@sopuli.xyz 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

TBH this is nothing new. They already randomly restrict you from viewing any type of nsfw content on the mobile browser version. It prompts you to download the app with no option to close the prompt.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Manticore@beehaw.org 21 points 2 years ago (10 children)

This... is dumb. Reddit gets traffic from people using it as a secondary search engine to get relevant answers.

Most people on the Internet view it from mobile. Reddit already makes their mobile experience genuinely awful despite this. Blocking it entirely?

The herding to their mobile app is so transparent (and DEFINITELY through stick, not carrot) I'm morbidly curious to see what horrible things they planning to put in their app that they know users will loathe, that requires their alternatives to be zero.

load more comments (10 replies)
[–] nlm@beehaw.org 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Fuel on the flames huh? Got to love their tactical timing with this. Let's piss everyone off in every possible way?

It's almost like Elon bought Reddit as well as Twitter the way this is going.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] M_g@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Honestly this is so absurd it's funny. Peak business brain to think that people in 2023 are willing to download an app and register an account to simply access content.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] entropicshart@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

What a great time to get off Reddit

[–] XPost3000@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 years ago

Alrighty, they aren't even trying to be subtle anyone

Or many they still are, in which case wow thats kinda sad

[–] little_hoarse@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Damn they turning into quora

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] dystop@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

ahahaha the reason I finally stopped using Yelp was because their mobile site would only load part of a review and would force redirect to their app if you tried to expand on any reviews. Rather than download the app or change user agent, I just gave up.

every website and their mother wants you to download their app nowadays.

[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

"old.reddit.com isn't going anywhere"

-- a spez lie

load more comments (10 replies)
load more comments