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I have defended this man. If he's still the nominee in November I'll still vote for him. But god dammit this is fucking terrible.
I do not have hope for him being replaced but I sure think he should be. Whoever is telling him that he should keep running is guilty of elder abuse.
Honestly, that this is the headline from the meeting is kind of ridiculous.
I absolutely think Biden should step down and hand the torch to whoever is best able to make the case for their beating trump between now and the convention.
But he was always slipping up with word switches over his career.
He was actually very on top of the policy nuances in this Q&A - 1,000x better than Trump could have dreamed of being.
The one word switch in an hour of nuanced policy discussions as the headline is more a failure of the media than Biden.
Even though he def should be making way as his decline is going to get worse and more info is going to come out.
The media was seething because they can't just run another word flub every day. Biden turned their repeated questions about minor misstatements into a policy discussion.
They don't want to run the story "NATO meeting a success" because it doesn't get as many clicks as "Biden secretly nuts". They've become tabloids.
This is legitimately scary. Trump does this every second, now Biden is doing it every other conference. 4 years ages anyone, let alone the man in charge of NATO, the biggest economy, and running for re-election.
I am genuinely starting to be at a loss. I understood the life long stutter, I understood people age differently, I understood that soundclips and sneaky edits can make things look bad, but Jesus Christ. Is this the same day as the "President Putin"?
The whole issue is that leftists have seen this side of Biden for years but we were always told to be silent because we are Republicans or Russians or some such bullshit. The signs have been there for years, Obama had alluded to it several times.
I started calling his bullshit out in 2020 when he was an old racist who his now VP said he was an old racist whose policies impacted her. I knew him as the senator who didn't believe Anita Hill when she said Clarence Thomas raped her. I knew him as the senator who made the 90's crime bill that made BIPOC even worse off and acted like it helped them. I knew him as a senator who helped write the USA PATRIOT Act, the greatest mass removal of constitutional rights in the name of ~~racist polices~~ anti-terrorism.
And even then I voted for him 2020 because he was "Not Trump." Didn't matter, I live in California, but I didn't want smug NeoLibs saying my vote for the greens in 2016 in California is what single-handedly gave us Trump.
This is sad.
Brutally awful. I am heartbroken that this is happening; to him and this country.
He is doing this to himself, and his hubris is dooming the country.
He is the newest RBG. Not letting go of any of it to try and save America, when it just delays and makes the problem worse because they didn't listen to fellow polticans or the public.
Precisely.
Great we're going to be set back hundreds of years because an old Democrat refused to step down...
AGAIN.
Straight up witnessing elder abuse. My grandfather was getting so old that he was making basic mistakes while driving. We took the keys away because he could hurt someone.
The fact that they're allowing this man to humiliate himself and this country over and over again speaks to the cruelty of the people who are still covering for this.
Literally sickening. I've had this happen to family members and neighbors. It's always the easist to abuse those who can't even see they are being played.
The way media works, any good he might have gotten out of the speech or question and answer session is going to be completely overshadowed by this flub.
I completely got what he meant. But it's another bad moment.
Overall, the whole impression I got was grandpa Joe giving storytime. I just don't think that's what we need at this time.
This was surreal. To his credit he eventually got into his groove as he moved through his list of approved journalists.
He's still going and he's not doing great...
Like, he is saying a lot of words, and they do seek to connect with the ones right next to each other most of the time. But it almost never has anything to do with the question after the first sentence or two
I can't tell if he's pretending to talk to people or actually talking to people in the audience. Like I think he sees journalists making comments or reactions and addressing them.
Edit:
When asked if his delegates could vote for someone else if they don't want him he said:
That's the Democratic process
Then leaned in all creepy and whispered
That's not going to happen
Edit 2:
Fucking hell...
They asked about "VP trump" at the end and said trump had already latched into it.
When asked for comment Biden said:
Listen to him
Like? Listen to trump?
Then did his best Monty Burns walk off stage.
As with everything Biden, I highly recommend everyone watch it when they can.
It went on too long, he started to lose his train of thought a few times. The end was weird too. I'm not sure "listen to him" meant what he thought it meant.
The feeding frenzy at the end definitely confirmed that questions were pre-approved and they had to stick with them.
He was hours late because he was cramming the answers for what he was knew was coming.
Nothing about this was unscripted
I don't think he got into his groove at all. This guy is toast. And what's with all the whispering?
He seemed to go in and out of rehearsed responses. Sometimes he'd make sense for minutes at a time and then crash.
And whispering? He asks rhetorical questions and then whispered the answers. Joe Biden is always telling you a secret.
He also referred to Zelenskyy as "President Putin"
Welp...it's over folks. To those continually downvoting me because you can't face facts, it's time. As a staunch Democrat, I cannot bring myself to support that man any longer. Either find a new candidate or this will be the first presidential election I don't vote in.
Bitch, moan, downvote all you want. I don't care anymore.
If only Democrats had listened to leftists 4 years ago, we saw all the signs then and we were told to shut the fuck up
Sooo Trump has been doing this for years too... can we just kick them both out the race and do-over please?
omg, this guy has to be finished. He cant even hold it together this long. wow
And here come the sound bites.
This is the problem. I don't want to excuse Biden, but even if 95% of the speech is fine, the 5% is all 99% of readers will ever see.
Apparently we didn't watch the same speech cuz not even 5% of it was fine
There's really no way to express how sad this is. We really don't want the fascist to win, but it's time to lay your burdens down, Joe. We love you, but give it up.
Then he said he was going to defeat VP trump...
And.i honestly don't know if he meant he'd beat Kamala and be the candidate in the general or if he meant he'd beat Trump in the general?
This is getting kinda sad, bro should be sitting at home.
Eh, if you actually watch the video and don't take it out of context you realize he meant Harris, bcz he later refers to how they can beat trump. Sometimes you say the wrong thing, I've done it before and I'm barely into my 30s, and nobody accuses me of being senile.
To be clear, he should have stepped down a long time ago, and I'm not really a fan of Biden. But he's been making mistakes in speeches like this his entire career. It wasn't until he became president that everyone started losing their mind over it.