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[–] twistedtxb@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That was such a weird thing to do, considering that Starfield isnt even out yet.

My guess it that TES6 won't be out for a good 6-7 years more.

[–] Elrundir@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Considering that for years Bethesda couldn't fart without their fans asking "Where is ES6? Just let us know ES6 exists!", I'm not too surprised. They rushed a teaser just to shut people up, but in the process set themselves up for years more of "Show us more ES6!"

Peak Bethesda for me was announcing Fallout 4 six months before release date. None of this 10+ years to build up hype that the game can't live up to.

[–] null_@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Bethesda really has no incentive to actually make TES6 so long as they have healthy subscribers for TES Online, I’m not surprised at all the game has likely been put on ice until the next generation.

Fortunately Starfield looks amazing and will hopefully fill that void for most of us who want a single player experience.

[–] beefcat@beehaw.org 15 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I don't buy this. TES Online and actual TES games are so fundamentally different that they do not have the same audience. There are probably millions of people who will buy TES6 but have no interest in playing an MMORPG.

[–] PixxlMan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

In any case I'd imagine TES 6 would only serve to strengthen TES online and the entire TES franchise, so I don't think that's any reason for them not to make it.

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[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.one 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I really wish devs would stop doing early reveals.

[–] lostlemon@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When they first dropped the trailer, my coworker said it would be out within the year because “why would they show it if it wasn’t ready?”. I bet him $100 if it released by next summer, and $20 for me every year it didn’t release. I don’t work with him anymore and it wasn’t a fair bet anyway, but I always think fondly of that when TES6 release comes up

[–] Wilshire@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

Just send it to collections.

[–] Quentinp@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

For all the complaints over the years (from myself included), there are very few options for games like Elder Scrolls main games.

[–] beefcat@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

These kinds of games are extremly difficult to build. Skyrim still does things I haven't seen any game other than Fallout 4 do since.

[–] BoneALisa@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What things would that be? Im trying to think of something that hasnt been replicated / improved in another game, but I am drawing a blank personally.

[–] beefcat@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

One example: The way Bethesda games track an enormous number of physics enabled objects across their open worlds. I feel like most games in the last 10 years have made a point of simplifying their physics systems to a point of near-nonexistence.

Bethesda knows that when I dump 500 wheels of cheese on the floor of my house in Whiterun, I want it all to still be exactly where I left it when I come back 20 hours later.

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[–] WatTyler@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would like to have it explained to me by someone au fait with GameDev as to what's stopping a smaller studio going after something with the scope of Morrowind or Oblivion.

Bethesda are so blessed to have their own unique niche that's so stupidly popular.

[–] Quentinp@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just piles and piles and piles of work. Imagine all the trees, grass, rocks, terrain, buildings, props - and then character and creature models, animations, sounds, writing it goes on and on!

[–] beefcat@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And the simulation complexity, which leads to an endless sea of bugs. Imitators typically just leave a lot of this out. But Bethesda knows that when the player dumps 500 wheels of cheese in their house in Whiterun, they better still be there and fully physics-enabled when the player comes back 20 hours later.

[–] CliodhnaBaskerville@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not really that surprising that we haven't gotten much (if anything) new since. It was pretty clear that the trailer was basically just a statement of "we plan on this being a thing that exists at some point". IIRC, we knew that it was extremely early in development and that Starfield would come first.

As a side note: I remember people theorising that it would be subtitled Redfall, since Bethesda had trademarked the name around the same time.

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[–] SpyingEnvelope@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

It's okay. We'll get Skyrim for the PS6.

[–] Bretzel@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It was just an announcement. It is quite normal for huge AAA games to take more than 5 years to develop. Bethesda was and probably is not in full time production for TES 6. But sure time flies very fast and feel old now...

[–] SuddenDownpour@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Let's be honest here, it's not even in full production yet, not until Bethesda releases Starfield.

[–] Elementell@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

I'm sure Starfield will release in a broken state and require at least a year of patching to be mostly playable, so we'll also have to factor that development time in as well.

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[–] Jeef@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When it actually releases I'm sure there will be tons of articles and news that it was rushed and is unfinished

[–] WatTyler@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 years ago

Tbf that's because it'll be rushed and unfinished.

[–] ashen@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago

Five years, eh? Maybe I’ll make some room and re-install/re-mod Skyrim at some point in the summer. Haven’t touched it in, like, two years, but I’ve been kinda missing it. Or maybe I could try ESO again.

[–] Ozymati@lemmy.nz 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This seems on brand for elder scrolls

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[–] Pliny@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

And starfield hasn’t even released yet cry at this rate the trailer will be as old as skyrim was at the time of the announcement before we get a release

[–] bootyberrypancakes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe by the time my son is old enough to play with me, lol

[–] carlyman@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] janeshep@feddit.it 1 points 2 years ago

I'm still in the "find a girlfriend" stage

[–] NekomimiNebula@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

That TES Online trailer trolled me so hard when I watched the showcase, I thought it was Elder Scrolls 6 and I just forgot that game existed.

[–] CDN@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

We're probably going to see Skyblivion and Skywind release before TES6...

[–] unfazedbeaver@lemmy.one 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

.... I'm starting to feel old. Was that really 5 years ago? The pandemic really screwed with my sense of time...

[–] OverfedRaccoon@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

The Pandemic Years just feels like a singular lump of time, somehow feeling like infinity and a singularity at the same time.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Gotta sympathize with people who were watching the Elder Scrolls Online trailer during the direct, thinking it might have been ESVI.

[–] ghashul@feddit.dk 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Talk about jumping the gun with that announcement. I'll honestly be a bit surprised if we see the game this decade.

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[–] SenorBolsa@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There was an announcement trailer? I tune all of it out until there's a release date, I didn't know a single thing about starfield until today. Looks rad, hopefully it delivers.

[–] raspberrybush@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Agreed. Came to the thread to be upset about Skyrim slowness but am now just excited for Starfield.

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