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If so, was it polled somewhere?

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[–] cacheson@kbin.social 139 points 2 years ago (24 children)

So I was just looking through literature.cafe a bit, and came across this excellent comment chain by Janvier. It outlines the history and culture of Hexbear, and makes a very solid argument for defederating them.

TL;DR- Don't defederate Hexbear because they're a bunch of genocide-apologist authoritarians. Defederate them because they're annoying, and will burn out your moderators.

[–] relative_iterator@sh.itjust.works 52 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Personally I think it’s an extremely toxic community that represents the worst of the internet. They’re extremely set in their ways and provide no meaningful content or discussions on the platform. That’s totally fine for them but they can do whatever they want in their own safe space.

I would prefer them to be defederated mostly because I can’t block an entire instance.

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[–] Mr_Buscemi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 97 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Sucks for you guys. They caused nothing but trouble when they were still federated with Blahaj.

After so many of us complained about how they were being dicks and many on the instance weren't feeling comfortable, hexbear decided to defederate from us first since they somehow said it wasn't safe for their LGBT members to be on it.

Funny enough a few days later a new account started posting across different lemmy instances for days about how the Blahaj instance was anti trans and that the admin was too. Our Admin is openly trans :/

The whole argument started because the user said everything had to be political and wouldn't stop insulting others who said they didn't want to have every post on Blahaj to turn political.

It was just too perfect timing how a few days after hexbear defedarated for somehow saying the pro LGBT instance was anti-LGBT, that we got a brand new account attacking trans members while sayin they were anti-trans.

Enjoy your new people.

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[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sh.itjust.works 77 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't mind the general hexbear ideology in itself. Sure. You do you.

But, damn, I see more than a few of its members just being obnoxious.

[–] Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 years ago

It’d be lovely if you could just see the hexbear powerusers somewhere convenient and mass block. I went through a couple subreddits of theirs, found the top posts, blocked everyone with more than 50 upvotes. Real pain in the ass, but I suddenly have far fewer teenagers who peaked in middle school debate club to deal with.

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[–] narp@feddit.de 56 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Opinion of one of the admins regarding hexbear, just so you guys know where they stand:

In my view, the hexbear community is actually a positive force on this platform. They are frequently abrasive, but they ultimately have the potential to contribute to what we are building here. They are extremely active and some of them are quite intelligent. But they've also become accustomed to a privileged position on their own walled-in platform, and they need to be reminded that their views are considered ver extreme by the average person.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

and some of them are quite intelligent.

some of them

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Which admin specifically please?

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Yes and its very very annoying.

[–] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Lol I blocked the most annoying posters from hexbear on this thread and now there's hardly any comments. I think we should put them in time out. Like defederate for 15 days. if they keep brigading, another 15 days. I don't really want to defederate, but I hate this kind of brigading.

[–] Estiar@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 years ago

I'm going to follow your suit and fill up my block list. I can't take this anymore

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[–] wtvr@sh.itjust.works 37 points 2 years ago (14 children)

This is such bullshit. Just saw the announcement that we aren't going to defederate from hexbear. Why weren't we given a say in this?

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[–] bzz@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

Pretty disappointing that @iamaqtpie is active on hexbear and says things like:

Please direct any seething that you may wish to do to the struggle session that’s well underway over here.

which reddit considered hate speech 🙄

Also disappointing that hexbear gets to vote federation, while we are left to federate to hexbear without a choice because the admins like the instance. Lame.

It's clear that sh.itjust.works does not care to get community support in it's decision making and we are left at the whims of the admins preferences. Isn't this why most of us left Reddit? Because community say didn't mean anything?

[–] bzz1@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

LMAO I got banned for this post

No reason given. Just "mod Banned"

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

They added us to their whitelist.

[–] jacaw@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thank you for being one of only two people in this thread that actually answered the question.

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[–] Kes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 2 years ago (21 children)

They're abrasive enough that they couldn't even get along with lemmy.blahaj.zone, a dedicated LGBT friendly instance ran by several trans women, out of accusations of said admins being transphobic

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[–] misk@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

What the actual fuck is wrong with admins of SJW?

Please direct any seething that you may wish to do to the struggle session that's well underway over here.

Thought this instance puts things to vote so yeah, duck you too, goodbye.

[–] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah, garbage post. I expect we'll see discussion/vote for defederation soon, though. I'd like to hear from TheDude as his stance made a lot more sense when we were defederating from exploding-heads.

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[–] TheThirdAccount@kbin.social 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

OK, first time I've seen the dread Hexbear brigading in action. So, thanks, I guess?

Now I understand why they warrant defederation. I'm glad on on a Lemmy instance that defederated them, and suppose I'l have to find a kbin instance that does as well (apparently this one doesn't defederate them if I'm reading this correctly?)

The irony is that, although I've been in the fediverse a while, today I literally made my first kbin account.

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[–] metallic_substance@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What the hell is hexbear? This is like the 3rd time I've seen it mentioned today

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 years ago (28 children)

Rowdy and very active left-leaning instance which recently rejoined the rest of lemmy. They tend to be very vocal in calling out racism, sexism, homophobia and other forms of bigotry, which has made certain users very angry. On the other hand, some of them seem to be very tolerant of certain authoritarian countries, which makes a certain other group of users very uncomfortable.

[–] ChronosWing@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 years ago (18 children)

Left leaning? Every post I saw from them before finally filtering the instance was heavily right leaning and filled with everything you just claimed they are against.

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[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 28 points 2 years ago (44 children)

It's where the far right go to play dress up as LGBT and call everyone else a nazi/be ruzzian apologists and blame the failings of the communist ecosphere on white western liberals.

It's basically the opposite of a sincere environment.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 21 points 2 years ago

Yes it should be renamed to ConcernTrolling101

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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Is there a straightforward way to go through and block all communities on hexbear? I browse All but would like to avoid accidentally commenting on any of their posts.

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[–] regalia@literature.cafe 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I thought my instance defederated with them, but I just realized I blocked like a dozen or so of them and now they're non existent on here lol.

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[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Calling this present thread a "struggle session" is dismissive at best if not downright insulting and I expect better from our mod team.

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[–] HellAwaits@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago

Every lemmy instance should defederate from these losers and we should ship all the users from there to North Korea because they love it so much.

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I appear to be out of the loop. What's wrong with hexbear? I'm not familiar with the instance.

[–] UnknownQuantity@lemm.ee 50 points 2 years ago

They're just an annoying bunch of wannabe communists who sound incredibly smug and post a ton of stickers in comments. Having said that I've moved to lemm.ee when lemmy.world defeterated from hexbear.

[–] BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (18 children)

If you're familiar with CTH and the dirtbag left, Hexbear is where they went after being banned by Reddit.

For what it is when lemm.ee considered de-federated from them they flooded the instance turning a 200 comment thread into 1200. And lots of harassment. Edit: In case you wanted to read that clusterbomb of a thread: https://lemm.ee/post/4543536

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