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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/26211900

[Transphobia Warning] Nutomic’s Stance on Transgender People

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Happy with my current instance, but the urge to try out PieFed grows… would probably mean abandoning Mbin though and Mbin is already so tiny compared to Lemmy…

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Aren't the communities more important than the platform, as you can access the communities whatever platform you use?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

I've said before that I could add piefed support to Interstellar (it already had Lemmy and mbin support). The only thing I need is an api.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The bourgeoisie would only care about profits and maintaining their power, right? They'd be both pro-lgbtqia+ and anti-lgbtqia+ if it gets them profit and/or pushes attention away from their misuse of power.
Like selling Che Geuvara T-shirts, while running propaganda against him.

Or are they seeing transphobia as mainly a reaction of religion/conservativeness? Even then a part of the bourgeoisie would try to profit off them, right?

Or did they respond as such because they saw the bait-y bourgeoisie remark(there are screenshots of the convo in the comments there)?

Would be good to see their response other than a screenshot of one reply in their private message convo.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (8 children)

So many things I'd have to look up to understand what's going on and why this is supposedly transphobic.

What bothers me more is private discussions being aired publicly.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

A participant in the conversation chose to share, so your entire argument is bullshit

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

So, for context

  • this is one of admins of lemmy . ml.
  • that instance’s first rule is

No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.

  • This person is also one of the core devs of lemmy

Because, IMO, fedi drama is almost always overstated and overblown, especially when it comes to specific “incidents” … because we’ve gotten addicted to social media drama/rage …

I’ll provide my own impression without any context, pretending I’m a relevant moderator

  • it seems they’re challenging the notion that the same culture can be both pro-trans and anti-trans at the same time.
  • which seems superficial unless it’s about a specific incident
  • they seem to think that the Olympic boxer that’s caused an incident is actually born biologically male but is a trans female, and cite as much as proof that the west is not wholly anti-trans
  • my own impression is that the boxer being biologically male is mostly rumour and accusation, but I’m not close to the story at all and can understand how someone not following the olympics would conclude that they’re trans
  • without context I’m not sure I could conclude whether this is transphobic, at all actually.
  • Probably misinformed, but I’m also not informed on that issue, which also seems to be a moving “story”.
  • The user’s perspective is also relevant here, where being a known communist, they’re likely to think anything the west does is flawed and always boils down to class issues.
  • so given that it’s a sensitive topic, I’d follow up the comment with an attempt to frame the sensitivity of the issue and ask the author to consider editing their comment or reconsidering their stance just to flag the potentially transphobic reading of the comment.

Here’s the killer though … this seems like it’s a private message in response to a query … in which case I’m not sure there’s any moderation to be done and without more I’m not convinced this transphobic at all.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

that ~~post~~message from nutomic is a classic demonstration of the horseshoe theory.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Next time someone asks me what Lemmy's like, I'll just refer them to this post.

"And see? That's my comment down here with the gif."

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