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[–] [email protected] 84 points 7 months ago (1 children)

fuck it why not also Korea and Japan and Mongolia and Vietnam and

[–] [email protected] 51 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Because that might mean doing something, and not just having a totem to direct the hate of the people against, the all-powerful, cruel west, who has humiliated China for centuries, even causing the deaths of 50 million Chinese (at the hands of the CCP during the great leap forward).

Stupid politics for stupid people, a common story the world around.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

who has humiliated China for centuries

A century.

It was the century of humiliation. Not centuries of humiliation.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh, good to hear they either got over the opium wars, or don't consider the Great Leap Forward to be that humiliating.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The Opium wars were part of the century of humiliation.

In mainland China, the century of humiliation is considered to have ended in 1949 with the founding of the People's Republic of China. In Taiwan, the century of humiliation is considered to have ended in 1945, when the ROC became a founding member of the United Nations with a permanent seat on the UN security council. (That seat was transferred to the PRC in 1971.)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean, as a westerner, Id think losing a war against sparrows would be pretty humiliating too.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Oh, it will get territory from Russia. As soon as Putin has no resources left to sell besides land and people. And China won't take drunk and depressed people. Has enough of such.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

China imports slave labor from N Korea, to make up supply shortages from over cleansing Uyghurs. Russia is using their slave population as cannon fodder right now, so I can't see them having many people left to trade.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (10 children)

Come the fuck on. Taiwan was returned to China after WW2. It's where the Chinese national govt fled to (you know, adversary), it's populated by Chinese, and is strategically important because it blocks China in. I don't like the situation any more than anyone else but let's discuss it intelligently rather than stupid gotchas.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Stupid gotchas have their place in undermining imperialistic narratives about how Taiwan “rightfully” belongs to the PRC.

No territory rightfully belongs to anyone but it’s inhabitants.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

it blocks china in

How exactly does a small island off the south east coast block China in?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (17 children)

There's a string of Japanese islands from Japan to Taiwan called the Ryukyu Islands. If someone wanted to use those islands to block China in, it would be extremely simple. Between Korea, Japan, Taiwan, and in the South Philippines, Malaysia they are easily blocked in. If they have Taiwan they have an out, that's why they want it so badly (besides all the other things).

It really clicked in for me when I saw these kind of maps. These ones aren't quite as good or blatant, you have to look a bit more carefully. Remember Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Philippines and Malaysia are US allies.

https://bigthink.com/strange-maps/an-astronauts-view-reveals-chinas-geopolitical-claustrophobia/

https://www.geostrategy.org.uk/research/the-chinese-perspective-of-the-pacific-region/

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Don't threaten them with a good time.

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