Now we know why he told Tucker if Trump loses he’s going to prison.
We are in full holy shit Russia is inside the hen house mode.
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There's also the FTC investigation and potential Enron/Theranos-like collapse of Tesla. The election isn't the only area where Elon is prone too wildly misleading claims, and fortunately the finance sector is regulated a bit better than less essential things like electing the leader of the free world and not letting traitorous criminals topple democracy
And yet mentions of things like this are treated as lunacy by certain users.
If Elon goes to jail, what will happen to his companies?
They might actually start making good decisions.
Tesla discontinued the Cybertruck
SpaceX remains unchanged
X/Twitter removes bots
It would be pretty cool if SpaceX stopped speedrunning turning their surrounding lands into MadMax style polluted wastelands, though.
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Depends on if the companies are involved in anything illegal or just him.
crazy how american media is not reporting on this traitor
I mean, it says right at the top of the article:
Source: The Wall Street Journal
Should it be reported on more? Absolutely. But it's disingenuous to say American media is not reporting it.
I would guess they mean american media in general instead of just one of them.
The general public didn't read the WSJ, and being behind a paywall hasn't increased the number of people who do.
It's a WSJ exclusive from 9 last night. It's not surprising there are not a lot of articles about it yet. The media sucks there is no reason to bitch about nothing.
Probably also that it's been a full two years plus and nobody's said anything while he's raking in billions from the US government for sensitive national programs including the Ukranian army's internet connectivity.
Is Wall Street Journal not American?
A banana is not a bunch of bananas. Right?
WSJ is not "American media" by the same token.
It seems kind of silly to expect all media companies to immediately cover a story that broke less than 12 hours earlier.
But it's starting to happen. Happy?
Are Elon Musk and Vladimir Putin Talking? https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/25/business/dealbook/musk-putin-trump.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
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... It's not the Berlin wall? What other lies have I been told??????????!?!!!¿‽
please try him for treason, please please please
"Off with his head!"
Elon talks to Putin and Putin is Trumps master. I have a feeling we are being played by Putin.
The whole Western world is being played by Putin. Right wing parties are on the rise in pretty much every Western country and every single one has had suspicious connections to Russia.
I think you're onto something here.
librul conspirasee!! nO cOlLuSiOn! Lamestream mediar lies! freeze peaches!
One thing is, there is a 99% chance that the NSA recorded the conversation
Probably, but whether they can understand it depends on whether Musk and Putin used decent end-to-end encryption. You'd expect they would, in which case the NSA may effectively have only the metadata.
My sweet child...you think the NSA cannot break encryption?
I think it's possible they can't, depending on the algorithm used and whether they have low-level access to hardware and/or firmware. It's possible that some of the recommended algorithms were chosen for subtle NSA backdoors, and I'm sure they have a lot of resources to throw at high-value communications, but I'd be surprised if every algorithm in current use, with large enough keys, can be cracked by them. A low-level backdoor in the hardware device itself would be a different matter, and this seems like a more practical approach for the NSA than cracking the encryption directly, particularly where the participants are taking extra care. So I'd say it's possible but not certain that they can hear/read these conversations.
That does presuppose they don't have a direct tap on either or both lines somewhere.
To get around end-to-end encryption the tap would have to be in the phone handset itself or a vulnerability in the code. I wouldn't rule either out.
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If you don't understand what the government/military technology is capable of, I'm sorry. I had a coworker who worked in and around extremely high level military surveillance years ago. Back then, they had the capability of turning on any cell phone microphone or camera and real time listen in. He wouldnt go beyond that, but did say/ the surveillance satellites in movies have nothing on current (even back then) capabilities. Imagine now
We are just now learning of Locate X who can pinpoint almost any phone location, tie it to advertising id's and view its movement history, and build an entire picture of what virtually any person on this planet is doing. That's just a company, not the government.
At this point in my life, I view anti tracking, ad block, encryption, alternate OSs etc. as keeping honest people honest. Military/govt. tech has ways around it all.
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AES is freely available and if they knew of any weaknesses it probably wouldn't be approved for use on TS data.
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What's wrong with Musk's face? Was he in some kind of accident?
With to many "beauty" operations you cannot use your face muscles without things getting weird.
Seems like a conflict for Ukraine and the US Military.
Shocker
Sus af
Elon is a treat for the world and humanity in general.
God I hope you meant to type 'threat'
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