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[–] [email protected] 139 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Now we know why he told Tucker if Trump loses he’s going to prison.

We are in full holy shit Russia is inside the hen house mode.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 6 months ago

There's also the FTC investigation and potential Enron/Theranos-like collapse of Tesla. The election isn't the only area where Elon is prone too wildly misleading claims, and fortunately the finance sector is regulated a bit better than less essential things like electing the leader of the free world and not letting traitorous criminals topple democracy

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

And yet mentions of things like this are treated as lunacy by certain users.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If Elon goes to jail, what will happen to his companies?

[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They might actually start making good decisions.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Tesla discontinued the Cybertruck

SpaceX remains unchanged

X/Twitter removes bots

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

It would be pretty cool if SpaceX stopped speedrunning turning their surrounding lands into MadMax style polluted wastelands, though.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Depends on if the companies are involved in anything illegal or just him.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 6 months ago (2 children)

crazy how american media is not reporting on this traitor

[–] [email protected] 60 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I mean, it says right at the top of the article:

Source: The Wall Street Journal

Should it be reported on more? Absolutely. But it's disingenuous to say American media is not reporting it.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I would guess they mean american media in general instead of just one of them.

The general public didn't read the WSJ, and being behind a paywall hasn't increased the number of people who do.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

It's a WSJ exclusive from 9 last night. It's not surprising there are not a lot of articles about it yet. The media sucks there is no reason to bitch about nothing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Probably also that it's been a full two years plus and nobody's said anything while he's raking in billions from the US government for sensitive national programs including the Ukranian army's internet connectivity.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Is Wall Street Journal not American?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A banana is not a bunch of bananas. Right?

WSJ is not "American media" by the same token.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It seems kind of silly to expect all media companies to immediately cover a story that broke less than 12 hours earlier.

But it's starting to happen. Happy?

Are Elon Musk and Vladimir Putin Talking? https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/25/business/dealbook/musk-putin-trump.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

... It's not the Berlin wall? What other lies have I been told??????????!?!!!¿‽

[–] [email protected] 50 points 6 months ago (1 children)

please try him for treason, please please please

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

"Off with his head!"

[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Elon talks to Putin and Putin is Trumps master. I have a feeling we are being played by Putin.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The whole Western world is being played by Putin. Right wing parties are on the rise in pretty much every Western country and every single one has had suspicious connections to Russia.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

I think you're onto something here.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

librul conspirasee!! nO cOlLuSiOn! Lamestream mediar lies! freeze peaches!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago (3 children)

One thing is, there is a 99% chance that the NSA recorded the conversation

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Probably, but whether they can understand it depends on whether Musk and Putin used decent end-to-end encryption. You'd expect they would, in which case the NSA may effectively have only the metadata.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

My sweet child...you think the NSA cannot break encryption?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (14 children)

I think it's possible they can't, depending on the algorithm used and whether they have low-level access to hardware and/or firmware. It's possible that some of the recommended algorithms were chosen for subtle NSA backdoors, and I'm sure they have a lot of resources to throw at high-value communications, but I'd be surprised if every algorithm in current use, with large enough keys, can be cracked by them. A low-level backdoor in the hardware device itself would be a different matter, and this seems like a more practical approach for the NSA than cracking the encryption directly, particularly where the participants are taking extra care. So I'd say it's possible but not certain that they can hear/read these conversations.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That does presuppose they don't have a direct tap on either or both lines somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

To get around end-to-end encryption the tap would have to be in the phone handset itself or a vulnerability in the code. I wouldn't rule either out.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you don't understand what the government/military technology is capable of, I'm sorry. I had a coworker who worked in and around extremely high level military surveillance years ago. Back then, they had the capability of turning on any cell phone microphone or camera and real time listen in. He wouldnt go beyond that, but did say/ the surveillance satellites in movies have nothing on current (even back then) capabilities. Imagine now

We are just now learning of Locate X who can pinpoint almost any phone location, tie it to advertising id's and view its movement history, and build an entire picture of what virtually any person on this planet is doing. That's just a company, not the government.

At this point in my life, I view anti tracking, ad block, encryption, alternate OSs etc. as keeping honest people honest. Military/govt. tech has ways around it all.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (18 children)

AES is freely available and if they knew of any weaknesses it probably wouldn't be approved for use on TS data.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)

What's wrong with Musk's face? Was he in some kind of accident?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

With to many "beauty" operations you cannot use your face muscles without things getting weird.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It's the cheek where he stores his sperm.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

*Putin's sperm.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

Seems like a conflict for Ukraine and the US Military.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Elon is a treat for the world and humanity in general.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

God I hope you meant to type 'threat'

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

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