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Maybe I'm going to change my phone with a pixel one and I'm thinking to instal Graphene OS. There is somebody that can try to instal my bank app and tell me if it works? Searching online I did not find any way to check. Thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Check this list https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/ If your banking application is not there you can name it here and I can try it out for you

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The main app seems to crash no matter what I do. Even with sandboxed play services enabled, sensors permissions enabled, and exploit protection compatibility mode enabled. The other two, however, seem to work fine without any of those permissions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Apologies for the late reply - thank you very much for checking!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Seems to work perfectly fine. No google play services needed, no sensors permission needed, and no exploit protection comparability mode needed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you can check Credit Agricole Italia you will do me a big favour. Thanks

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Seems to work perfectly fine. No google play services needed, no sensors permission needed, and no exploit protection comparability mode needed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Thank you very much for your help

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you live in italy you should know Banca Etica requires no mobile app, you cando everything from the web (on mobile too)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That is the case with most online banking in the US as well

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

That's good, much more consumer friendly

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'll give a look. Thanks for the information

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

No problem. Feel free to contact me for any information

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

If it doesn't work by default, long press the app, go into app info, scroll to advanced, enable exploit protection compatibility mode.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I found bank apps to work well on secondary profile.

You can do it with Android's built-in option, or better (IMO), with Shelter.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

In looking for citibank. 👍

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Also, if not you can always try yourbank.com, switch banks, or learn how to pay all your bills with monero and use cake wallet from their official fdroid repo.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

learn how to pay all your bills with monero

This is some of the worst advice I have ever heard lol. Good way to get the feds knocking on your door for tax evasion. Not to mention crypto is a ponzi scheme by default and destroys the enviroment just so you can get yourself into legal trouble. It's not even private either since your money needs to enter and exit a crypto exchange that requires you to enter invasive information for this exact purpose. Do you expect to pay for groceries or rent in monero? No business is going to want to deal with that bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

your money needs to enter and exit a crypto exchange that requires you to enter invasive information for this exact purpose.

No

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Elaborate, unless you have the fantasy everyone is mining coins and keeping it in the monero ecosystem, which doesn't happen.

Explain how you'd buy a pizza without real world cash entering or exiting the system.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There are several ways to obtain Monero anonymously.

Simplest and most well-known: Buy Bitcoin (non-anonymously), then exchange Bitcoin for Monero. Never touch this Monero receive address again and use your other Monero addresses for spending (u have infinite).

Other method: Use localmonero.co and directly exchange cash for Monero with a well-reputed stranger. Anonymous cash-by-mail possible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Dude there's this things as taxes, and you have to claim those on your taxes or the IRS comes for you. That's dumb as hell, and cash shouldn't be anonymous.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

You asked a question and I gave you a sophisticated answer. As a reply I get an unrelated pile of shit back, fuck you

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Monero used zero knowledge proofs. It is anonymous unlike Bitcoin. That's its main selling feature.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Did you read literally any part of my comment

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

You're wrong with the Anonymity part

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Actually, i have been paying for groceries, my phone bill, and my email service for the past year in monero. I also use it when i go out to eat and could pay my power bill with it too. The only bill i honestly cant pay is the mortgage. That one is a direct bank draft and not a card payment otherwise i could even do that one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How do you pay for groceries with Monero?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Through instacart or via walmart giftcards with Coin Cards or Coinsbee.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

What's the point though? Cash is anonymous anyways and you are not taking away power from fiat currency at all with such an awkward and non-mass-adoption friendly method

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Well, every transaction made with your bank is tracked. Doing it the way i am the bank only sees a single transaction to the exchange and the exchange sees a buy. After that the trail goes dark. I try to support small businesses that take monero directly like gratuitas.org when possible. The giftcards are for the big brands that would not be easy to get to accept it. If a small mom and pop type wants to accept it i still use them first. Take gratuitas as an example, their coffee is more expensive than the big box. I choose to buy it anyway because they dont convert the monero back to dollars when they get it.

Edit: if i worked for them i would want my pay in monero so they would get it from a customer, pay me with it, and i would pay bills with it. Thats the beginning of a circular economy which is what we want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Okay, that makes sense and thanks for informing about gratuitas.org . However, when buying groceries locally at a store, I always pay with anon cash and not via bank, so in that case using giftcards bought with monero seems redundand.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, that would be redundant and good on you for fighting the good fight smand using cssh. You are fighting for privacy IRL while i am fighting for privacy online. Both are super important.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That looks like you're a drug dealer

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just because it looks that way does not mean it is. And tbf, being a drug dealer is not an issue imo as the problem is governmyth tellinf people what they can and cannot put in their own bodies. If drugs were legal most people would use more mild forms of the drugs and use them more responsibly.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well that's weird but besides the point I'm trying to make. I'm wondering how do you get money into your wallet enough to regularly pay bills and groceries in monero and exclusively pay with gift cards? Are you roleplaying that you mine it all?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Ah, no i actually do buy it. However the exchange i use doesnt support it so i do have to do a conversion. I would love to mine it all or get paid in it but alas, thats not to be at least for now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The website looks incredibly sketchy

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm still nervous to switch as I use GoogleFi or whatever it's called now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I use GFi with Graphene. So far so good

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

personally, my bank app works out of the box, even without google play services. i would recommend not banking on your phone unless you absolutely need to, like mandatory 2fa (only using the mobile app)