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About a year ago I switched to ZFS for Proxmox so that I wouldn't be running technology preview.

Btrfs gave me no issues for years and I even replaced a dying disk with no issues. I use raid 1 for my Proxmox machines. Anyway I moved to ZFS and it has been a less that ideal experience. The separate kernel modules mean that I can't downgrade the kernel plus the performance on my hardware is abysmal. I get only like 50-100mb/s vs the several hundred I would get with btrfs.

Any reason I shouldn't go back to btrfs? There seems to be a community fear of btrfs eating data or having unexplainable errors. That is sad to hear as btrfs has had lots of time to mature in the last 8 years. I would never have considered it 5-6 years ago but now it seems like a solid choice.

Anyone else pondering or using btrfs? It seems like a solid choice.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Using it here. Love the flexibility and features.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Btrfs only has issues with raid 5. Works well for raid 1 and 0. No reason to change if it works for you

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Meh. I run proxmox and other boot drives on ext4, data drives on xfs. I don't have any need for additional features in btrfs. Shrinking would be nice, so maybe someday I'll use ext4 for data too.

I started with zfs instead of RAID, but I found I spent way too much time trying to manage RAM and tuning it, whereas I could just configure RAID 10 once and be done with it. The performance differences are insignificant, since most of the work it does happens in the background.

You can benchmark them if you care about performance. You can find plenty of discussion by googling "ext vs xfs vs btrfs" or whichever ones you're considering. They haven't changed that much in the past few years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Proxmox only supports btrfs or ZFS for raid

Or at least that's what I thought

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I am using btrfs on raid1 for a few years now and no major issue.

It's a bit annoying that a system with a degraded raid doesn't boot up without manual intervention though.

Also, not sure why but I recently broke a system installation on btrfs by taking out the drive and accessing it (and writing to it) from another PC via an USB adapter. But I guess that is not a common scenario.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

btrfs raid subsystem hasn't been fixed and is still buggy, and does weird shit on scrubs. But fill your boots, it's your data.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

For my jbod array, I use ext4 on gpt partitions. Fast efficient mature.

For anything else I use ext4 on lvm thinpools.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you rely on snapshotting and journaling? If so backup your snapshots.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why?

I already take backups but I'm curious if you have had any serious issues

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Are you backing up files from the FS or sre you backing up the snapshots? I had a corrupted journal from a power outage that borked my install. Could not get to the snapshots on boot. Booted into a live disk and recovered the snapshot that way. Would've taken hours to restore from a standard backup, however it was minutes restoring the snapshot.

If you're not backing up BTRFS snapshots and just backing up files you're better off just using ext4.

https://github.com/digint/btrbk

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