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My theory: The beagle Scotty lost during the transporter incident was OG Porthos. (lemmy.ca)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The basis for my theory:

If we developed warp drive, genetic manipulation, and transporter tech, I’d reckon even before that we’d first figure out how to make dogs live for hundreds of years. Because that’s easier and of course we would.

I’ve seen people post that it must have been like Porthos v9 because of the time difference, but there’s no way that dog didn’t outlive Archer by decades, because if we’re going to do anything good as a species, it will be making sure our dogs outlive us.

So Scotty lost the OG Porthos.

e: better phrasing

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

because if we’re going to do anything good as a species, it will be making sure our dogs outlive us

So, funny thing about this, is it's not at all true. I have a friend who is a vet, and he quite succinctly clarified with some good journal articles that the real issue with dogs' short lives is we just don't care. If we had been breeding for longer lives at any point, they would have no issue with living for decades longer than their current spans. It's never been a priority (and might even be a poor business decision) for breeders to focus on longevity. Even health is only a passing concern for their 'working' period.

Maybe humanity will become better. Someday.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Yeah, most purebred dogs have way shorter Lifespans than random mixed dogs

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

That's depressing

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I’m pretty sure that genetic manipulation was only forbidden in human beings.

Also remember that Jonathan met Arik Soong. Porthos could have been augmented more than The Dog (by Tendi).

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

If I’d met any Soong, I’d have made sure my dog lived forever. Immortal Porthos confirmed.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

We're talking about this good boi, right?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

In which episode did Scotty lose a beagle?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

Scotty: How do you think I wound up here? Had a little debate with my instructor on relativistic physics and how it pertains to subspace travel. He seemed to think that the range of transporting something like a... like a grapefruit was limited to about 100 miles. I told him that I could not only beam a grapefruit from one planet to the adjacent planet in the same system - which is easy, by the way - I could do it with a life form. So, I tested it out on Admiral Archer's prized beagle.

Kirk: Wait, I know that dog. What happened to it?

Scotty: I'll tell you when it reappears. Ahem. I don't know, I do feel guilty about that.

Scotty in the 2009 Star Trek movie explaining how he wound up in an especially remote posting.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

In the reboot movie.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Reboot movie. He was improving transporter tech, put an unnamed cougharchercough Admiral's beagle into the system to test it and it went away tae fuck. Which is why he's been assigned to the bumfuck artic station in the movie.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes thanks. They did call Archer out by name, though. Scotty says ‘so I tested it on Admiral Archer’s prize beagle’. It was explicitly that dog. (eta I just rewatched that scene to be sure)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You do realize this is Kelvin Timeline we are talking about, not Prime Universe?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Yes, and Porthos existed before the divergence, so it still would have been the same dog in that timeline.