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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Min max means minimizing the downsides while maximizing the upsides.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That's weird! I always understood it as minimizing scores you don't care about to further juice your most desired stats. Eg. Sawing off a shotgun to make it more viable as a quick-draw close-range problem solver. What you're describing means "Optimizing", to me

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

To my knowledge you're correct. In the context of DND you put the least possible points in attributes you don't care about, while maximizing the stats that do your damage. So you can end up with a sorcerer with more charisma than Jack Nicholson, who is too dumb to tie his own shoes.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

That's max-max

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

I always think of quintessential min-maxing being to use 5e point buy to choose the stats 8, 15, 8 15, 8, 15 or whatever, literally making your relevant build stats maximum while dumping all else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not always downsides though. Just a less desirable stat for the build than the one(s) you're maximizing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Median max, aka Med Max

[–] Blueberrydreamer 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's how the modern DnD community has been using it, but that's absolutely not what it means. It's just been kinda lost since 5e has basically no options to "Min" anymore. Back in the 90s and early 2000s, most games had options to take flaws that further reduce stats or add other complications in exchange for better base stats or more feats.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

This is kinda why I don't trust Wotc anymore. They are too scared of breaking the game or offending their fans. So they make waffling middle-of-the-road products that are completely bland.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

Mcgonagall: why is it always you three?

Artificer, warlock, druid

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

thanks, I've got to show this to several people

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

I remember back in the day of playing the original gold box Pools of Radiance - you can build your party of six characters - and it has a stat rolling generation method, where you can just roll over and over until you get stats you like...

BUT... at level 1 you can "customize your character" which lets you just manually assign stats (I think the idea was so that you could re-create your tabletop characters in the game.) - but as a kid we would always just set every stat to 18 with it.