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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can't we just call it what it is? It's a Rootkit.

Part of me wants to fund the creation of a hardware level cheating device just to move past kernel level cheat.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

It's called DMA.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Helldivers 2 and easyanticheat also have kernel level anticheat, but remain playable on linux. They disable the kernel level bits on linux.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Both Elden Ring and Armored Core 6 launched with EAC and both were marked Steam Deck verified/playable before release. If this turns out to be EAC again I'd assume this will be no different with Nightreign.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This WAS a day one buy for me. Now I’ll pass thanks.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I just want to know your reasoning on this. If you're interested in Nightreign, I can only assume that you've already played and enjoyed Elden Ring. Elden Ring itself uses EAC which is kernel level on Windows but is playable on Linux. There's no reason to suspect that Fromsoft would change the implementation of EAC since it has been proven to work for them and altering it would cost money. So I'm not sure I understand why you would avoid Nightreign given that you already have EAC on your system. Not asking this to be snarky or hostile, I just genuinely can't understand the motive here.

And mind that I'm already avoiding Nightreign when it comes out since it sounds (to me) like a departure from Elden Ring's gameplay, so you can be sure that I'm not some Fromsoft stan mindlessly defending everything they make.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’ll wait until it’s heavily on sale and that it’s proven itself to actually play on Linux. Just like I did for Elden ring. Otherwise I’d pay them full price on day one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Ah, fair dues

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

nooooo, whyyyy, i wanted to play it on the steam deck :(

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

You probably will be able to. It will likely run about as well as Elden Ring does, though. Either way, wait until you get confirmation from other Linux users that it actually does work on Linux. Or buy and refund if it doesn't end up working.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The only solution to the anti-cheat problem I see is a Linux anti-cheat. Yes, devs can enable Linux support in EZ and whatever the other one is called. But those anti-cheats only work in Wine userspace. Pretty easy for cheat devs to get around, and get around those shitcunts do.

Edit: Another solution, though cringe would be an AI based anti-cheat that doesn't need kernel level access to work effectivly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

They get around the Windows KLAC as well, so it doesn't make sense to me for dev houses to require it. Cheaters, almost by definition, find a way to circumvent blocks, and I don't think that justifies my being required to install a rootkit on my system.