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    [–] [email protected] 59 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    chaotic good? ladybird? the browser by devs that refuse to use your pronouns?

    https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814

    [–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

    People are losing their shit, calling for boycotts, and throwing around accusations of transphobia over comments in the source code and a single line of documentation? Seriously? And brigading the developer three years after the factβ€½ I was ready to write off Ladybird, but damn, this was taken way out of proportion.

    I'm all in for equal treatment, but people need to get a perspective. Such an extreme reaction will ultimately hurt the cause they're trying to advocate for. Getting bent out of shape and publicly brigading something for every perceived slight, every time someone's feelings are hurt, or can't get their way, will get them -- and the demographic or movement they represent -- labelled as undesirable.

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (11 children)

    This is why I hate the FOSS community. Everyone freaks out and cries wolf the second a platform doesn't share their political opinion, even if it's completely irrelevant to privacy or FOSS.

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Personally, I'd want my software to value basic human decency, no matter how good the code is. If the developer lashes out at an inclusive change in a single line of documentation, I'm not using that browser even if it could solve my taxes.

    This is just my take though, and if you want to use the browser, then go for it.

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    [–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    not sure how exactly I'm losing my shit? I posted a single link, and let people decide for themselves, if your fine with supporting sexist people then nobody is stopping you.

    and personally I don't care if you think I'm hurting my cause, people who get this butthurt over some simple words and basic respect, simply are not the kind of people who I want to be around anyways.

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

    I worded that poorly. The "you" was plural (I want the singular "thou" back) and meant to refer to the people who are losing their shit, not any one individual.

    (edit) I also just want to point out that accusing me of being a sexist sympathizer and two hours later posting this shit is real funny.

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    [–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago

    Oh what the fuck, dev came off like a fucking ass to a minor suggestion.

    [–] Kr4u7 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

    Old news - fix is already in production Proof

    Please check your sources :)

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    The fact that someone else fixed the issue doesn't really excuse the absolutely unacceptable original response to a very reasonable request.

    I'm much more interested in seeing an apology, or any sort of indication that the dev understands how disrespectful they were.

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Lmao, a weird choice of a hill to die on. Although, given I've seen ppl refer to a user account as "he" exactly 0 times before that, I suspect the dev may speak smth like French natively, where everything is either male or female.

    That said, i'd rather use "it" instead of "they", given an account (and anon one at that) is not a person.

    [–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    I'm fairly certain the main dev is swedish

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Foss community is so insufferable and toxic

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    can you be more specific about what part of the community is toxic?

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    [–] [email protected] 58 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

    I'm gonna need some names because I only recognize like, two.

    [–] [email protected] 82 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    Going from lawful to chaotic, good to evil, we have:

    • Gecko (Firefox, Seamonkey, and derivatives)
    • Servo
    • Libweb (Ladybird)
    • Links2 (as well as ELinks and other forks)
    • WebKit (used in a lot of stuff, namely Safari and GNOME Web)
    • Goanna (Pale Moon and Basilisk)
    • QtWebEngine (Konqueror, Falkon, and qutebrowser)
    • Blink (Chromium, Brave, and derivatives)
    • Trident (Internet Explorer, old versions of Maxthon, old versions of Avant, and any homemade browser created with Visual Studio).
    [–] [email protected] 53 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    (until they get a new lead dev, Ladybird is definitely not any type of β€œGood”)

    [–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago (26 children)

    100%, this is either uninformed or some apologia

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    [–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    Why is QtWebEngine considered evil?

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    It's effectively Chromium.

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    [–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago

    khtml deserves to be in the gift to humanity category

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (9 children)

    I'm not sure I have a lot of faith in Servo but we are in need of anything better than Gecko. Ladybird is the new one on the block and we will see if it goes anywhere. I like that Ladybird it's own web browser.

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    [–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

    What the fuck? Safari is neutral???

    [–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

    That is Webkit, not Safari. Lots of things other than Safari use it.

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

    Where's KHTML? The O.G. GOAT.

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (34 children)

    Ladybird is certainly interesting to watch, it's improving quite quickly.

    I know people on here hate it because of one (admittedly not at all nice) gender issue in the codes comments but like... seriously?

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