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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (4 children)

My dad literally went to the city and argued against them raising the book value of his home, which would cause him to have to pay more in property tax.

He won too.

That loon.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do the American thing and chuck it in the harbor until the taxes stop

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

To be fair this dude could have gotten his house 45 years ago for 50K. So adjusting for inflation and overall development of his area, it could make sense. Comparing current payments to cost of money 40 years ago is comparing apples to oranges.

Now all that being said....there is a serious issue with cost and availability of housing, and I am not dismissing that. I'm just saying context is needed for this ragebait post.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (4 children)

If you learn skills such as how to fix shit yourself, owning a house is very obtainable.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The average household income where I live is ~$80k. Excluding the top 5%, it drops to ~$50k. That’s (on average) two full-time workers per household, each making ~$12/hour. Their annual (pre-tax) income would be about $480 per week, or ~$2080 per month each. After taxes, that would be closer to $1450. So likely around $3000 for the household’s monthly budget.

The cheapest homes near me start at $300k. A 30 year mortgage with a 6.5% interest rate and 10% down payment would be almost $2100 per month. That’s assuming they’re able to save the 10% in the first place, and get approved for the loan. It also leaves them with only ~$900 for the entire monthly budget. That’s food, utilities, car payment(s), insurance, childcare, etc…

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (4 children)

That's the thing about increasing home prices nobody talks about. It increases the "value" of your home, so you're taked more.

When my parents retired, they didn't move out to the country to get away from the city life. They did it because it saved them 40 grand a year in property taxes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

Where the fuck did they live? What was the home value and tax rate? That's insane.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Yeah, that guy could sell his house for 5 times what he built it for

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

California disagrees: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_California_Proposition_13

Property tax is assessed when there's a sale, and otherwise changes very slowly. It's a controversial measure.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Which induces a lot of absentee landlordism, as property is held in trust and financialized rather than being bought/sold at the retail level.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I don't know his situation but I think primary residence up to certain value shouldn't be taxed at all. There's a huge difference between an old man living alone in a house he had built for his family 60 years ago and an "investor" who owns entire neighbourhoods. Unfortunately, where I live a property tax on as far as I remember 4th and all above residential properties has been proposed and people who oppose it the most are pensioners who live in the only property they own. Right wing media can just outright lie to people telling them the tax is going to be on every property and people go on vote against their own interests.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

If his math is right, and assuming that his property tax is about 1-2% of his home's value per year, then the value of his home has increased about 15-30x the original value.

Its hard to be sympathetic.

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