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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/40252119

Fair Vote Canada on Bluesky

How is this democratic?

It's time for proportional representation.

#cdnpoli #onpoli

A political infographic titled 'Ontario votes 2025' compares the popular vote and seat distribution in the Ontario election. On the left, a pie chart labeled 'How we voted (popular vote)' shows: PC (43%), Liberal (29.9%), NDP (18.6%), Green (4.8%), and Other (3.8%). On the right, a pie chart labeled 'What we got (seats)' shows: PC (64.5%), NDP (21.8%), Liberal (11.3%), Green (1.6%), and Other (0.8%). The infographic highlights the discrepancy between votes cast and seats won under the first-past-the-post system.

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[–] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Please please please, we need a better voting system. The one time I voted for the Liberals, and was excited about it too, was for voting reform. Never again.

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, the Liberals were careful with their wording. But only the Greens/NDP consistently support proportional representation (the only type of electoral reform that matters).

Read more: Fact Checking Justin Trudeau on Electoral Reform.

[–] burnitdown@beige.party 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

@AlolanVulpix that's the fun part, there is no democracy, and proportional representation won't change that. you cannot have kinder, gentler managers of capitalism. they don't exist and you can't make one.

Consider it harm reduction.

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

there is no democracy, and proportional representation won’t change that

Lol. Let's not contribute to the problem by spreading misinformation.

[–] burnitdown@beige.party 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@AlolanVulpix

that's not misinformation. just say you don't know what you're talking about.

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] burnitdown@beige.party 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@AlolanVulpix

all i'm hearing is "waa waa i'm a liberal i think i know everything but it's all made up but i am the only correct person in the world based on nothing at all".

words don't mean whatever you feel like. there is no democracy in capitalism.

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you believe what you are saying is true, why bother getting into an internet argument?

[–] burnitdown@beige.party 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@AlolanVulpix

because being grounded in reality is good, so i like to encourage others to do the same.

if the contradictions of the systems we apparently live under don't matter to you, why bother talking about it? what is the point?

if you don't want to understand how there is no democracy in capitalism, then don't talk about it.

but if that does matter to you, it will help to admit that perhaps you don't know what you're talking about and have let the boss' media do your thinking for you.

[–] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

grounded in reality is good

I agree.

what is the point?

There is no point.