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Yeah, if I squint hard enough it does seem like Poland defending their border makes them the inhuman ones. Kinda in the same way Ukraine started the war by being invaded.
At least that's what I see with my Putin-colored glasses.
It's hard turning down people actually looking for a better life, but then again Poland has made their stance on it pretty clear, avoiding the mass migration and refugee issues other countries like Germany have.
Political environment doesnt justify human rights violations. We have these rules for a reason and if we start breaking them already before the war even starts, then we might as well surrender.
Also since when does Germany have a refugee issue? Has someone listened to too much right wing propaganda?
That's if this article is actually corroborated by truth and not subject to bias based on "allegations", and to me I often question Politico's thirst for clickbait titles. If so, yeah, Poland should be held accountable like anybody else, but until then I don't blame them for not wanting to accept people from Belarus, a nation heavily influenced by Russia. Especially in current times.
Has someone listened too much to actual regime propaganda? Because I remain critical of any sources telling me what to think.
Do bother replying if you must for the sake of your pride, but know that I don't engage in petty arguments or pissing contests.
This is not some super fresh disputed news topic, its well documented and has been happening everywhere on the eastern european borders for years. I have friends and family who have personally seen the violence inflicted by the soldiers and police that carry out these pushbacks with batons and attack dogs and guns. There is plenty of victim witnesses and video evidence.
Now your personal accounting based on proximity to the matter is something I believe more than mainstream media.
Thank you for your perspective, as that sort of behavior by the border law enforcement is not correct.
Individual experience carries little weight in my opinion. The evidence does and there is plenty of it and many articles over the years covering it: https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2022/12/08/culture-of-impunity-across-eu-over-violence-against-migrants-ngo-warns
The second edition of the "Black Book of Pushbacks" compiled by the Border Violence Monitoring Network (BVMN) documents more than 1,635 testimonies of human rights violations affecting almost 25,000 people over the past six years.
They recount being beaten, kicked, humiliated through forced undressing, threatened with a firearm, arbitrarily detained and subjected to inhuman treatment inside a police station before being illegally pushed back both at the EU's external borders and from deep within the territory of the bloc's member states.
BVMN meanwhile described itself as "concerned with the growing number of countries using disputed border regions, and so-called ‘neutral zones’ or ‘no-mans lands’ as a location of torture and inhuman treatment against people-on-the-move."
At least 17 people died between September and New Year's Eve 2021 at the border between Belarus and Poland after being stranded in one such no man's land by authorities on both sides of the border.
Euronews is a company under majority ownership of the Hungarian dictator Victor Orban, so if even they report it this way im pretty confident the evidence is quite damning.
For good measure some AP https://apnews.com/article/europe-treaties-united-nations-europe-european-mass-migration-crisis-698431db3975c8e5e018400cbad03a35
Propaganda war is stronger than ever. I wonder how much "article" like this costs.
Yeah, if I squint hard enough it does seem like Poland defending their border makes them the inhuman ones.
Defending their border from... unarmed migrants?
Germany is doing fine. They are suffering massively from a propaganda campaign that paints migrants & refugees to be the ultimate scapegoat for everything that’s going wrong in their country, but that’s about it.
Poland isn’t exactly a beacon of humanity, they have a massive problem with racism, hatred of Jews and Muslims specifically, and with anti-LBTQ violence. The pushbacks no matter if in Greece, Croatia, Hungary, Italy, they are brutal and can be deadly.
It’s an absolute shame for European society that other human beings can be weaponized due to us being so incredibly racist.
Ya read the article and get a better picture of what’s going on
This is horrible, and all of this only works because we’re so racist in Europe that you can use poor people fleeing from war & destruction as a weapon.
Belarus is beating them and raping them
How’s this europes fault
I never said that. And I literally said it’s horrible. I said it’s Europe‘s fault that human beings can be weaponized because we’re too racist to let them in. If we wouldn’t want them to be beaten and raped we could protect them. We just don’t want to.
I think you have your head on backwards or you’re a troll
Why isn’t it their fault for going towards a dangerous hostile place and seeking out situations that will lead to abuse.
I don’t head over to war zones. I stay where it’s safe and don’t wonder off that path.
When I travel I follow the rules for each country I visit. I don’t try to enter illegally and then accuse them of something.
You seem to be Canadian (?) so you probably don’t know what draconian measures we take to shut down every possibility to legally request asylum in the EU which is a basic human right in our constitution.
People are getting raped and abused in North Africa, Italy, Greece, Turkey, you think it’s just Belarus? We let people drown in the Mediterranean Sea because we don’t give a fuck, these people are sub-human to the average European. Maybe also to you, but don’t call me a troll or insult me in any other way just because I don’t let you justify us treating refugees like shit just because the other guys do the dirty work for us.
Again, if you would care about the abused people you’d be happy to help them, instead you blame them for being victimized. I don’t know how people like you can sleep at night.
