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The very short version: It has now become clear that European governments can no longer rely on American clouds, and that we lack good and comprehensive alternatives. Market forces have failed to deliver a truly European cloud, and businesses won’t naturally buy as yet unproven cloud services, even when adorned with a beautiful European 🇪🇺 flag, so for now nothing will happen.

This means it’s time for industrial policy, which requires politics to be proficient in “industry.” Such proficiency is the only way to develop policies and plans that don’t go off the rails (which, unfortunately, can happen in many ways).

With a coherent strategy (see below for a suggestion), governments and industry can rapidly improve the cloud situation, allowing Europe to once more manage its own services without American prying eyes and without fearing the consequences of sanctions & transatlantic disputes.

That concludes the short version.

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[–] oldfart@lemm.ee 8 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not in the tier 4+ space but I know Scaleway has solutions there, I haven't seen them mentioned.

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Some EU countries (and the City of Munich) habe tried to shift from MS to Linux. It didn't pan out, but maybe this is the decade where it could be done?

Imagine getting EU funding to run basically the EU IT department - best Linux, best management, supporting open Office suites, and establishing an EU cloud operation. One can dream, right?

I guess it didn't work well last time partly because of re-training needs, interoperability issues, etc.

[–] martinb@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 weeks ago

Most likely due to ms lobbying tbh