Whenever a corrupt criminal escapes justice I find myself wondering how much can the People take before they break out the pitchforks
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I find myself wondering how much can the People take before they break out the pitchforks
Quite a lot, actually, based on historical precedence.
It's going to take mass starvation and lack of food access for people to get fed up. It's always food access that tips the scales.
That’s going to be pretty soon at this rate. The number one reason people are looking the other way is because they’re afraid of losing their jobs and healthcare. We’re heading for a bad recession this summer where a lot of people will lose both anyways. So they will be all out of excuses.
This is also why fired federal workers are one of the angriest groups so far.
Also, food isn’t the only way to get people to turn to violence. Violence against a population, collective punishment, and unnecessarily dangerous work conditions work as well. The American Revolution turned from a political squabble to a military one when the British heavily occupied Boston as punishment. Labor strikes used to be violent, mainly out of necessity.
Labor strikes used to be violent, mainly out of necessity.
I'd argue that it is back to being necessary.
Most people do not care if some corrupt politician whose activities seem inconsequential to their own circumstances is getting away. It needs to affect them in a tangible way for people to care.
In the opulence of America, things would have to change dramatically. Like, across the entire nation people witnessing their neighbors and family members dying kind of dramatically. Existential threat in a clear and obvious way that even a moron can understand kind of dramatically. Short of that, this nation is addicted to corruption.
Im not going to riot over this guy, sorry.
Too many will celebrate because he has a D by his name, completely ignorant of the fact that high profile Dems not being held accountable for blatantly breaking laws hurts Dem turnout nationwide.
Adams walking will hurt Dems in the midterms, and give trumpets someone to point to and say his corruption makes trump's ok.
The party has to meet the standards of its voters, and Dem voters will always have a higher standard than Republican voters.
That's just life.
Bullshit. Everyone who voted for Adams in NYC knows this is fucked. Unlike Republicans, Democrats would be thrilled to get this asshat out of office because we don't think corruption makes our team stronger. No one is celebrating this because he was a Democrat, there's nothing a liberal would cheer about this shit show.
Dem voters in NYC?
Sure, they tend to always hate mayors in NYC because neoliberal primary donations ensure the Dem voters don't have a good option in the general and Republicans have a chance
But name an elected Dem in a leadership position who has called for Adams' resignation, I can wait.
A 10-second Google search.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5178001-garcia-calls-adams-resign/
What about a house rep who's been in office 3 years makes you think of him as "an elected Dem in a leadership position"?
I did see this tho:
In July 2020, inspired by the George Floyd protests, a petition to recall Garcia was approved by the Long Beach City Clerk. Activists cited Garcia's "immoral leadership" and financial support from the Long Beach Police Officers Association, the union that represents local police.[64] On November 9, 2020, the mayoral recall was canceled in the wake of the national election. Activist Franklin Sims claimed he and his supporters were being intimidated.[65]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Garcia_(California_congressman)
That's not even getting into him literally being a Republican hiding behind a D:
Garcia was the California Youth Coordinator for George W. Bush's 2000 presidential campaign.[49][50][51] He also founded the Long Beach Young Republicans in 2005. Describing himself as socially liberal and fiscally conservative, Garcia guided and organized the Young Republicans, which developed a charter that was recognized as an official club by the Los Angeles County Republicans.[52] Garcia also worked as an aide to Republican former vice mayor Frank Colonna when he was on the City Council and ran Colonna's unsuccessful bid in the 2006 Long Beach, California mayoral election.[53]
The only reason he has a D is he couldn't win with a R...
But that's off topic:
What about a house rep who's been in office 3 years makes you think of him as "an elected Dem in a leadership position"?
But name an elected Dem in a leadership position ...
That's the real zinger, ain't it? The Dem's don't have much in the way of actual leaders doing any, ya know, leading. Bernie, AOC, and to a lesse degree Tim Waltz are the only Dem-leaning elected officals doing any particular commenting at all and even they are focused elsewhere.
Bernie, AOC, and to a lesse degree Tim Waltz
And all three of them get snubbed by party leadership...
I am optimistic about the new DNC chair, but that's still not enough. We need to start focusing on state chairs as well, but voters have literally zero say in any chair.
The Democratic party is fundamentally undemocratic.
It will never be an easy fix, or a good time to do it. But we should have fixed it decades ago, and fixing it now is better than fixing it in 2035.
We can't waste the current DNC chair, but we also can't assume he can fix anything except the next presidential primary and getting rid of the victory fund so state parties can put up a fight
The cracking in the DNC was obvious. Even back to the 2000 Supreme Court interference with the Bush Gore Election. Kerry was a weak candiate in 2004, Obama only barely got past Hillary Clinton in the primary because he was wildly popular when he should have sailed to victory without issue but then they failed to keep any inovations from that 8 year period (get out the vote, social media savy, youth outreach, etc. ) when Clinton came sweeping back in 2016 and wondered how they lost that momentum.
but then they failed to keep any inovations from that 8 year period (get out the vote, social media savy, youth outreach, etc. ) when Clinton came sweeping back in 2016 and wondered how they lost that momentum.
It's not a secret why it shook out that way...
Obama held a grudge against the DNC as an organization, not just for siding with Hillary, but then not supporting him in the general.
Which lead to Obama being one of the first (might be the only) to not nominate a DNC chair.
So the people who worked against him, nominated one of their own.
And they repeated in 2012.
So if you're wondering why Obama didn't permanently change the party...
He just fucking choose not to. Voters did their part and he let us down out of personal pride to show he was more important than the party
And that let neoliberals hold onto the party till about 3 months ago. Clinton's people didn't have to sweep in, because they never had to leave
Tradition or not, there's no reason the DNC needed Obama to bless a chair candidate. They chose to throw progress and his contributions away.
They chose to throw progress and his contributions away.
Yes ...
After working against him in the primary and the general, the 2008 DNC choose to not pick a DNC chair who shared Obama's values after he failed to nominate one.
What's more concerning than you thinking anyone wouldn't be able to guess that's what would happen, is you seem to be implying it's the same DNC who finally learned their lesson and elected the most progressive chair in around 50 years...
Like, if you and I could figure out what the DNC was going to, why couldn't Obama have?
The voters got behind Obama to save the party, he got what he wanted and said fuck it.
And people still kiss his nuts for getting us a more conservative version of the Republican healthcare plan.
For all our sake you need to start looking past a single letter and start reading some modern history books.
I’m no democrat. I am an old school American. I am anti fascist.
Adams is a fascist.
Democrat or Republican can be fascist.
The idea that these charges being dismissed with prejudice is bad for trump is bullshit.
They are all in on corruption and fascism together
NYC won’t elect a Republican fascist.
But they elected a democrat one.
god i wish this wasn't true. he's a fuckin' fascist through and through
TL;DR
With prejudice, so the DOJ can’t use this as a stick to keep him in line.
Your tldr immediately conflicts with your post...
A federal judge on Wednesday dismissed the criminal corruption case against New York City Mayor Eric Adams, nearly two months after the Trump administration controversially sought to drop the case.
The case was dismissed “with prejudice,” which means the Department of Justice is permanently barred from resurrecting the five-count indictment against Adams based on the same evidence used in the case in U.S. District Court in Manhattan.
trump wanted charges dropped, because Adams is kissing his ass.
Just because Adams has a D by his name, doesn't mean he's on the peoples side.
He's an obviously corrupt piece of shit who was likely just bought off by trump to protect his NYC interests
But you're acting like him getting off Scott free is a good thing
Trump wanted the case dismissed without prejudice. While Adams could very well end up still kissing Trumps ass, this makes it less likely as DOJ can’t resurrect the charges.
I never said him getting off Scott free is a good thing. I think he should face the charges.
this makes it less likely
Only if you think Adams is only doing all the stupid corrupt shit to make trump like him...
Sounds a lot more likely that he's just a corrupt piece of shit like virtually every other NYC mayor or former NYPD. Especially since he was doing stupid corrupt shit when Biden was president
Trump wanted the case dismissed without prejudice.
Bolding something isn't the same as linking a source...
The without prejudice part is in the article:
The DOJ had asked Ho to toss the case “without prejudice,” which would have allowed charges to be refiled against the mayor in the future.
As for why that could be bad:
Ho, in his order on Wednesday, wrote that dismissing the case without prejudice “would create the unavoidable perception that the Mayor’s freedom depends on his ability to carry out the immigration enforcement priorities of the administration.
The judge also said it would create the perception that Adams, who is seeking re-election this year, “might be more beholden to the demands of the federal government than to the wishes of his own constituents.”
“That appearance is inevitable, and it counsels in favor of dismissal with prejudice,” Ho wrote.
The judge noted that Adams requested a dismissal with prejudice, and that the DOJ had not opposed that motion, “effectively waiving any objection to permanent dismissal of this case.”
If he cared about, he'd have made noise about it not happening how he wanted...
Or more likely, had the DOJ oppose it
You're stuck on "stick" being the only way one corrupt politician can I fluence another.
Adams would eat a carrot out of Trump's ass, he doesn't need a stick when the door is opened to more corruption.
For fucks sake, pay attention to more than a single letter
The TLDR isn't conflicting at all with what you quoted...
Former acting U.S. Attorney Danielle Sassoon, who resigned in February rather than follow through with an order to dismiss the case, told Attorney General Pam Bondi in a letter that at Adams' lawyers at a meeting with her and top DOJ official Emil Bove "urged what amounted to a quid pro quo" in which the mayor would support Trump immigration enforcement efforts in exchange for dismissal of the case.
New York, New York. You got some work to do.
And this fucker is one of the people who have to sign off on a billionaire's plan to destroy my performance home and replace it with a shittier Atlantic City
Fuck Eric Adams
Luigi Mangione did nothing wrong and we need more people like him. Hopefully, the people of NYC aren’t so stupid as to reelect a traitor/criminal like Adams again. If they do, they deserve to reap exactly what he sows.
Didn't they elect Rudy Giuliani at some point
You know they had to wait until today to announce this, had this come out yesterday, everyone would have assumed it was an April Fools joke with how absurd it it.
Of course as a resident of NYC I am angry about this. Not only is he a criminal but he's also selling out the city to Trump. I would enjoy knowing how much he was squirming if the case was dismissed without prejudice like Trump wanted it to be, but I suppose it's better that Trump has less control over him.
I do see a bit of humor in all this, because he accepted such small bribes.
From Wikipedia:
Adams took over $100,000 in bribes from Turkey in exchange for using his powers to help open the Turkevi Center. These bribes mostly took the form of free and discounted luxury travel benefits. These benefits included free hotel rooms, free meals at high-end restaurants, free entertainment while in Turkey, free and heavily discounted flights, and similarly free and discounted flight class upgrades.
I would understand why he might be tempted to give up his integrity and accept the possibility of being caught if large sums of money (millions at least) were involved, but $100,000 is less than his yearly salary would be in the NYPD and he didn't even get it in cash! I don't earn as much as an NYPD captain like him (but enough to be comfortable) and I would experience zero temptation to take such a risk even if I had no moral objection to bribery. If I was the mayor then I would even be offended by the offer - who do they think I am if they expect me to sell myself for so little?
He's just a petty crook higher up in the world than he knows how to be. Pathetic.
Im beyond furious.
Ive been waking up all week earlier than my work alarms because of all the bullshit going on in our country. There is no justice on this fucking planet.
There is justice. Many just don't want to administer it themselves, which is understandable.
Phew! I know Chuck Schumer and the DNC Party were WORRIED they Might have to Break Ties with him! But since he's INNOCENT of the Corruption he Partook In they can KEEP him in the Ranks!
So what are the democrats doing to remove this corrupt sleaze from their ranks? lol jk.
Hochul can remove him but she is as useful as a wet tissue