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I was playing around with Lemmy statistics the other day, and I decided to take the number of comments per post. Essentially a measure of engagement – the higher the number the more engaging the post is. Or in other words how many people were pissed off enough to comment, or had something they felt like sharing. The average for every single Lemmy instance was 8.208262964 comments per post.

So I modeled that with a Poisson distribution, in stats terms X~Po(8.20826), then found the critical regions assuming that anything that had a less than 5% chance of happening, is important. In other words 5% is the significance level. The critical regions are the region either side of the distribution where the probability of ending up in those regions is less than 5%. These critical regions on the lower tail are, 4 comments and on the upper tail is 13 comments, what this means is that if you get less than 4 comments or more than 13 comments, that's a meaningful value. So I chose to interpret those results as meaning that if you get 5 or less comments than your post is "a bad post", or if you get 13 or more than your post is "a good post". A good post here is litterally just "got a lot of comments than expected of a typical post", vice versa for "a bad post".

You will notice that this is quite rudimentary, like what about when the Americans are asleep, most posts do worse then. That's not accounted for here, because it increases the complexity beyond what I can really handle in a post.

To give you an idea of a more sweeping internet trend, the adage 1% 9% 90%, where 1% do the posting, 9% do the commenting, and 90% are lurkers – assuming each person does an average of 1 thing a day, suggests that c/p should be about 9 for all sites regardless of size.

Now what is more interesting is that comments per post varies by instance, lemmy.world for example has an engagement of 9.5 c/p and lemmy.ml has 4.8 c/p, this means that a “good post” on .ml is a post that gets 9 comments, whilst a “good post” on .world has to get 15 comments. On hexbear.net, you need 20 comments, to be a “good post”. I got the numbers for instance level comments and posts from here

This is a little bit silly, since a “good post”, by this metric, is really just a post that baits lots and lots of engagement, specifically in the form of comments – so if you are reading this you should comment, otherwise you are an awful person. No matter how meaningless the comment.

Anyway I thought that was cool.

EDIT: I've cleared up a lot of the wording and tried to make it clearer as to what I am actually doing.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think one needs to include parameters like how soon after the topic was created the comment was made and how deep is it in the comment tree. If you for instance consistently comment on 1 month old topics or reply on comments ten levels deep you will get very few interactions.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Now what is more interesting is that comments per post varies by instance, lemmy.world for example has an engagement of 9.5 c/p and lemmy.ml has 4.8 c/p

I don't understand what this is supposed to mean. The commenter's account, or the community they posted to is on .world/.ml? Because those aren't necessarily the same.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Presumably where you posted it, given that local feeds show posts based, not on if someone is on the instance, but rather which instance the post is made on. The model I used is litterally the most basic thing in the world, so I just cobbled something together that was somewhat meaningful. I only took college stats, so complex models are out of my range.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Determining the reason no one replied to your Lemmy post.

This should be a picture of Nicole, the Fediverse chick.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I disagree that commenting for the sake of commenting is a good idea. Quality over quantity, a single meaningful discussion is superior to a sea of low effort garbage. I also want the fediverse to take off, but not at the cost of adopting modern Reddit culture.

a “good post”, by this metric, is really just a post that baits lots and lots of engagement

Baiting anything is bad.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I'm a bit confused but I think I liked this post

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the higher the number the more engaging the post is. Or in other words how many people were pissed off enough to comment

Omg, I’m so glad there isn’t any entity trying to boost this KPI like it’s the only thing that matters in the world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Thank you for your engagement. As a reward, please enjoy an additional upvote as well as this comment.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Another likely cause: you're posting to a non-local community and you got hit by federation issues, while your instance thinks the post got created, the target instance doesn't know about it.

Happened to me a few times.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Good post bro. 😉

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

does this have anything to do with the girl in the picture? or is this just "GIIIIIRLLL!!!" moment?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Post in a obscure sub

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If average comments/post is lowest on .ml, medium on .world and highest on hexbear, it might correlate those instances with post meaningfulness, or with the innate tendency of their users to comment. Or with both, or some other thing entirely. All I can really say about it is, "Huh, interesting." Not interesting because it leads to any particular conclusion, but interesting that there's a pattern.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can't think of anything I care about less.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Elon Musk's Path of Exile II advice?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thank a lot for sharing this with us, i love those data :)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Thank you for your insights.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

You know, I'm really just waiting for the day voyager supports gif insertion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I guess those without ego stroking don't care.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Any details you could share about how you obtained and processed the data? It seems like there's a lot of interesting things that could be done with this but I'm not sure where the best place to start would be

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I follow instructions, I think. Good post

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

I sometimes comment, just for the sake of comment and to support this community. For example now.

Your post is good!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Write a few comments, go to sleep and see for yourself what happens when you wake up. This is how I do it.

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