What is the actual justification for this? Everyone has to pay for this except for AI companies, so AI can continue to develop into a universally regarded negative?
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AI doesn't copy things anymore than a person copies them by attending a concert or museum.
This is 100% correct. You can downvote this person all you want but their not wrong!
A painter doesn't own anything to the estate of Rembrandt because they took inspiration from his paintings.
So if you take away all the copywrited training data then it makes the same images?
No. And that's the point...
So if it can't function properly without other people's work deciding what the art will look like that's called copying.
If human beings get shit for copying famous art or tracing we need to hold AI to the same standard.
Copy
- noun a. an imitation, transcript, or reproduction of an original work (such as a letter, a painting, a table, or a dress) b. one of a series of especially mechanical reproductions of an original impression c. matter to be set especially for printing; also: something considered printable (such as an advertisement or news story)
- verb a. to make a copy or copies of b. to model oneself on c. to transfer (data, text, etc.) from one location to another, especially in computing
I can't believe I just had to provide you with a definition of the word copy.
Are you freaking serious!!!
Being inspired by and creating an original production is not the same as copying if that original work is inspired by other artists!!!
By your definition of copying because Elvis Presley was inspired by Muddy Waters they made the exact same music!
LLMs don't produce copyrighted material they take inspiration from the training data so to speak. They create original productions.
In the same way that you can envision the Mona Lisa in your head but you couldn't paint it by hand.
You know copying literal brushstrokes and traces identifiable from real artists is different than being inspired, it's amazing the level of denial you cultists will self induce to keep it making sense.
Your god is not valuable enough to give more rights than human beings. Sorry
I don't care what techbro conmen told you.
AI will never be a replacement for actual creativity, and is already being legislated against properly in civilized countries.
The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. - Stephen Hawking
The fact that you keep calling llm's AI simply indicate your ignorance as to what you're even talking about.
They're not copying brush Strokes they're creating their own.
You have no idea how these things work what they are or even what they do you're just on the bandwagon hating these tools for reasons that you don't even understand yourself.
If you're so upset with all this stuff go live in a Luddite community or something.
This is such a bizarre rejection of reality
No it isn't.
You need to learn how your god functions.
If it needs training data then it is effectively copying the training data.
why do you say AI is a universally regarded negative?
Edit: if you're going to downvote me, can you explain why? I am not saying AI is a good thing here. I'm just asking for evidence that it's universally disliked, i.e. there aren't a lot of fans. It seems there are lots of people coming to the defense of AI in this thread, so it clearly isn't universally disliked.
Because pretty much nobody wants it or likes it.
That's just not true, chatgpt & co are hugely popular, which is a big part of the issue.
Nazism was hugely popular in Germany in the early 20th century, but was it a good thing?
You do realize the root of this thread was this question, right?
why do you say AI is a universally regarded negative?
In the early 20th century, Nazism was not a universally regarded negative.
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I want it and I like it. I've been using llms for years now with great benefit to myself.
Like any tool one just needs to know how to use them. Apparently you don't.
I think you're mistaken -- there are a large number of people who vehemently dislike it, why is probably why you think that.
Because overall people don't like it, particularly when it comes to creating "art."
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I mean honestly this AI era is the time for these absurd anti-piracy penalties to be enforced. Meta downloads libgen? $250,000 per book plus jail time to the person who's responsible.
Oh but laws aren't for the rich and powerful you see!
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Normal people pirate: one hundred bazillion dollars fine for download The Hangover.
One hundred bazillion dollars company pirate: special law to say it okay because poor company no can exist without pirate 😞
hello yes I'm an ai company. let me torrent all the things pls thank you
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