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The conversation in Obi-Wan’s hut probably has the most densely packed collection of these throwaway lines with canon backstories:

“[Anakin] was a navigator on a spice freighter” - The Twilight from The Clone Wars movie and a couple of episodes from the show.

“You fought in the Clone Wars?” - AotC, The Clone Wars movie and series, RotS

“For over a thousand generations the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic. Before the dark times, before the Empire.” - pretty much everything before Order 66

Other throwaway lines with later explored backstories include:

“We'll be sent to the spice mine of Kessel or smashed into who knows what!” - introduces both spice and the mines on Kessel 

“We go way back, Lando and me.” - explored in Solo

Two throwaway lines that I’d like to see backstories for are:

“The bounty hunter we ran into in Ord Mantell changed my mind.” 

“Many Bothans died to bring us this information” - Personally, I want this story to involve Mon Mothma having to go undercover and undergo the same type of transformative surgery that Obi-Wan underwent in the Clone Wars episode “Deception”. This would retcon how her appearance transforms from Genevieve O'Reilly in the prequels, to Caroline Blakiston in RotJ, and then back to Genevieve O'Reilly in the Ahsoka series without devaluing either actress’s performances.

[Edit: The specifics of how Obi-Wan got the nickname “Ben” would also be cool to see. We know it has to do with Satine somehow, but how did that nickname come about and why did he use it briefly in The Clone Wars series and after Order 66?]

[Edit: “I see you have constructed a new lightsaber” - How Luke got his green lightsaber is shown in a comic, but it still would be cool to see in live action or animation.]

The backstory of how Leia got the bounty hunter disguise from RotJ would also be nice to see beyond its presentation in the Forces of Destiny series.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The "many Bothans" story and how Leia gets the bounty hunter disguise were already told in Shadows of the Empire

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

No, you see the spy that stole the plans was actually named Manny Bothans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Those are no longer considered canon, nor are they in the medium of a movie or show

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Wrong, it's a separate timeline of canon. Legends still has good stories that don't need to be told again.

Right, it's not a movie or TV show. If Disney had the balls to continue Legends canon alongside Disney canon, Shadows of the Empire would make a great film.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have the death sentence in twelve systems

As for Luke's lightsaber, that was a deleted scene. I cannot recall if it was filmed, or just scripted.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

I have the death sentence in twelve systems

Robot Chicken covered that one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

That’s a good one! Would have fit well for the recent Tales of the Underworld short series.

There was a brief deleted scene of Luke putting the finishing touches on the saber (canon?), but there still would be questions left with what we know now of the need for kyber crystals and each design’s connection to their constructor.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought Andor would reveal the “many Bothans” story, but I haven’t seen any sign of it yet.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Those don’t take place during the same time period. Andor is set during the construction of the Death Star 1. The “many Bothans” line involves the plans for the Death Star 2, which was 4 years after Rogue One and A New Hope.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Thanks. Been a long time since I watched the originally trilogy. Got my death stars mixed up!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Now, I haven't seen Solo yet so if this is in there, forgive me: I wanna know how Han did the Kessel Run in under 12 parsecs.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

That is shown and is an important part of the movie

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You could nearly say that the entire Solo movie was a chance to retcon that line, trying to make it make any sense at all. I'm not sure they pulled it off, but man they tried and it was entertaining in the telling.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

It did break a little bit of headcanon for me

It always kind of stuck out to me that Han talked up how the Falcon made the Kessel run, but said nothing about him being the pilot. That felt like something he would have bragged about too, like "I made the Kessel run in under 12 parsecs in this ship"

So I always kind of figured that maybe Lando still owned it when it made the run, or maybe Chewie was the pilot, or any other random circumstance that kept Han from being the pilot, but he just conveniently left that out.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The navigation computer did it. Parsecs are a measure of distance, so it really is just the computer being super accurate with its ability to plot a course and stay on it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

There were three explanations for the line.

1: (the correct one) Han was making shit up to impress a farm boy, as seen by Obi-Wan smirking at the lie.

2: (Lucas's lie because the audience was dumb) It was a brag about how advanced the navigation computer is

3: (the EU fanon) it was a brag about the engines letting the Falcon cut distance travelled through the Maw.

The scene in Solo incorporated all three. The engines allow the Falcon to barely escape, the droid brain that is the nav computer plots a nearly impossible course, and Han still lies about it to Luke because the number he recounts is different from the line in A New Hope.

It was, quite honestly, a pretty impressive bit of fan theory unification.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I always assumed it was something like that; where even though it's a unit of distance, they might not have a direct route to get somewhere, so being able to get there in a shorter distance just implies he found a more direct route.

That or because it's a different galaxy, they simply have different units of measurement and in their galaxy a parsec is a unit of time. 🤷🏻‍♂️

But shit... Sounds like I hella need to see Solo 🤣

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I didn’t want a Solo movie because everything I read in the EU did it for me and it felt like a cash grab. It was, BUT after watching it at home I realized it was a fun fucking movie and ended up loving it.

I suggest giving it a try.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Most yeehaw Star Wars has been since ep4

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Solo is pretty decent, and the performances were not a weak point at all, but good lord they try to cram as much lore as possible into one plot. Still, definitely catch it sometime if you're fond of Star Wars stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Really it was the ghost of L3-37 who managed to do it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My head canon explanation is that the Kessel run requires extremely risky gravitational well navigation, which requires a great deal of speed to get through, with that speed also allowing you to "straighten the curves" by staying closer to the various gravitational sources. Thus, the faster you can go, the shorter the distance of the trip.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That’s one thing they are not consistent about at all in the SW universe, the rules of hyperspace.

In the final sequel film, a ship entering hyperspace is a deadly relativistic weapon that slices a star cruiser in half. In Rogue One, as the ad-hoc rebel fleet begins to flee at the approach of overwhelming force, fleeing ships bounce uselessly off like gnats.

Battlestar Galactica did ‘hyperspace’ best in my opinion. The atmospheric belly-flop maneuver was dramatic because they had well-established reasons why it was a risky and daring move.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I think the consistency can be resolved by proposing that how damaging a jump into hyperspace is depends on at what point it is intercepted. Holdo was an expert in combat and so knew the distance needed to get the greatest impact. And maybe didn't even realize how big it would be, after all it was a desperate move to try and buy time and not a used tactic because of the cost vs. payoff. When the Executor drops in right in the middle of things there isn't enough distance to get to a full "detonation" effect, plus do we fully see if there is no damage at all?

Basically just like some explosives, you can have a full effect or a fizzle that does minor damage, depending how how it is set off. Holdo was (probably) planning or hoping for maximum effect, while the rebels at Scarif were just trying to get away and had no clue there'd be something in the way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

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