Personally the sooner we rip off that bandaid, the better. .ml is far from the only activity pub project out there, but they are absolutely one of the most toxic forces on the fediverse and seriously harm the on boarding experience for new users. Nutomic is a bigot and a liar and Dessalines is a cringe keyboard warrior and nobody would put up with them if they weren't writing code. But if Lemmy is no longer the only mature option for federated social media, why should we continue to tolerate their shit?

I think this is an inconsistent move from the Blahaj team. They defederated feddit over one transphobic user who the admins wouldn't deal with. And I agree with that decision. They should make the same decision here. If lemmy.ml won't ban Nutomic, then it's clear they aren't interested in creating a safe environment for trans people.

Regardless of any funding question, I think every instance should be questioning federation with .ml over their acceptance of Nutomic. And that goes double for any instance committed to inclusivity, because they have a responsibility to their users to uphold the values those users expect.

Well said. Ada's stance is reasonable, and whoever keeps bringing this up should consider taking a trip to their account settings and blocking users, communities and instances to their hearts' desire instead of pressing others to do it for them.

Nutomic is banned from blahaj anyway.

Your entire opinion is null and void when you don't even get the nuances of why they would even start to express their support for Russia in the Ukrainian war, you just assume they like totalitarianism, incredible attitude

For some reason I've always gotten a very white vibe from blahaj.zone. I can't explain it, but I just don't feel that nonwhite people are exactly as welcome there. I've felt that way in a lot of trans spaces in the past that were very centered on a white view of transness. The racism is never overt, there's just a vibe hanging over those kinds of spaces. I don't have the language to say how I feel that vibe is there, but a lot of people have written about it

I was banned from all of Bahaj for using “dude” then questioning if dude was the word someone was taking offense of and as the word I misgendered them with.

Meta-pronouns was already a bridge too far.

Yeah, one time she banned drag for pointing out she broke a promise, and drag didn't even mean to! Drag thought she kept the promise and was telling a harasser they'd been told to cut it out. Turns out she didn't, and banned drag for making her look bad. You're right, wrong decision every time.

Personally, I don't care that they are communists. A lot of it is just that they're dicks. I would feel almost the exact same way if they were MAGA people, or pro-Nancy Pelosi people, or for that matter Bernie Sanders people or just non-political people, that harassed and banned and mocked anyone who disagreed with them in the same way that .ml does.

The liberals

People who use the word "liberal" as a slur like this are some of the worst people on this planet.

I've only ever seen one comment from nutomic cited as evidence of transphobia. And its a DM responding to some mystery comment that is never posted alongside it. A bit suspicious when the only evidence is presented without context.

Though it does contain the transphobic dogwhistle, "biological man," but that term is also one a reasonable person could reasonably reach from a place of ignorance. He also admitted to knowing very little about trans issues.

Also the trans comments are just one in a list of things. Without context there's no way to know if those even are his own ideas, or a summery of the mystery comment he's responding to, but also clearly disagrees with.

The opposition to nutomic on the basis of transphobia feels very much like a witch hunt. This doesn't seem like strongly held anti-trans beliefs. People are occasionally wrong or misinformed about things. And that's okay!

Edit: misremembered the specific language in the quote

If you want to control who uses your platform and to police wrongthink, it's best not release your project as open source with federation features.

This is common sense.

mild criticism

You misspelled “totally innocent unrelated comment which stepped on some kind of weird and arbitrary rule which they will swear is hateful and proof you are a bad person on purpose, BAN!”

I'm surprised to see this many people think the same as me. They are way too strict and full of censorship. Saying anything will get you flagged as transphobic, even if you’re just politely debating about a subject you want to get informed about.

"You should have known" - "you’re just transphobic"

blahaj.zone is an insult to the LGBT

Nice and all, but how is this relevant?

What does the poem have to do with the "scratch a liberal" idiom.

This seems like a non sequitur.

One of the head honchos on ml had some rant about trans people being part of the bourgeoisie agenda or some shit. Which of course, raises eyebrows about how this crowd in general was so against voting and standing up to the guy who is currently actively stripping transgender rights. I'm sure you're not all transphobes but the fact that this comes from someone at the head of a community, does make one look at the big push to not vote a little differently and makes it look like there's more reasons for it than just being too cool for school.

One of the main admins / devs basically said that the whole “transgender thing” was just a smoke screen and another part of the culture wars the bourgeoisie is using to divide us.

It was very dismissive and minimizing and … honestly gross.

It is indicative of their mindset overall and how myopic and “in their rigid lane” they are. Also just a wildly gross shit take.