Magnesium glycinate, +1. It saves my sleep...
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Omega 3-6-9 fatty acids. There's been a fair amount of research done on its role in mitigating ADHD, specifically. I take them and notice a decline in mood and overall presence of mind when I've forgotten to take my pills for a while.
Interesting, thanks for the paper link, I'll have to come back to that!
Big props for the PubMed link, hard to take anything else seriously.
I believe in good sources. Thanks for noticing ~
Could you recommend your supplement? There are a LOT out there.
I get whatever's on sale.
The best supplement is regular exercise imo
Added. It’s not really a supplement, but improving one’s health can do a lot for stress and sleep. That can take some of the edge off the related ADHD issues.
I mean, chelated magnesium helps take the edge off of Adderall but no, I doubt you'll ever find anything otc that is effective as something prescribed.
I wouldn’t expect any supplements, vitamins, or similar to be as effective, but to use your words, maybe some things that help “take the edge off.”
Well, the CM takes the edge (jitters) off of the adderall. The supplement does zero for ADHD. There aint a lot of options aside from stimulants. Soooo 500mg+ of caffeine in whatever form is your preference?
Creatine monohydrate helped for me. It's usually taken by athletes and gym-goers but there's a study saying that it may improve short term memory and intelligence/reasoning
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Ketogenic diet helps with ADHD. So it's the opposite of a supplement, you have to take the sugar out of the food
I.e. https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0289133 Ketogenic diet ameliorates attention deficit hyperactivity disorder in rats via regulating gut microbiota
Not much research in human studies yet for ADHD specifically, but the anecdotes and n=1 case studies are compelling. Not eating sugar is free, so it's worth a try
Update - Even metabolic mind (the group funding most of the research, says ADHD is still a area of ongoing research.
We don’t have robust evidence demonstrating the effectiveness of ketogenic therapy for anxiety, ADHD and brain fog, but clinical experience suggests that in fact these conditions might benefit significantly from ketogenic and metabolic therapies. Early results from clinical trials for other diagnoses show that improved attention, clarity of thought, and decreased anxiety are common beneficial outcomes.
https://www.metabolicmind.org/faq
But its safe, and free, so worth a shot.
A keto diet is far from without consequences. It's a very extreme change, that can only be done safely with a lot of care , as it implies cutting out most fruit and vegetables, for instance.
Afaik it's not medically recommended for anything but a few very specific serious neurological disorders.
I wouldn't go around recommending something like that.
If you want to enter a ketogenic state, intermittent fasting is a much less worrisome way to do it.
That’s interesting, I always said I felt somehow more sharp and sort of “present” when I am ketoing. Though I’d advice anyone considering it to first talk to your doctors. For me, I shouldn’t do it due to problems with my blood sugar and liver, but we figured if it helps, ought to find a way to make it work. So I do keto “periods” alternating with normal periods, which hasn’t, it seems, had much of an impact on my lab results. But this is all to say, it might have consequences you ought to be wary about.
Yes, if your taking any medications changing your metabolism can change how powerful those medications are (going to keto usually makes medications stronger, which could be dangerous)
If you don't mind me asking - What are your blood sugar and liver problems that prevent keto? Keto is well known for improving blood glucose control.
Im not going to pretend to understand or really know, just what my general practitioner told me once I brought up the possibility of testing going keto long-term. I have pre-diabetes, which I suppose convinced the doc to go for it even if in an alternating fashion, since it’s good for my weight which is good for all of the rest. I could ask next time though, maybe mention this adhd connection in lab rats, seems like it changes things a bit more to favor ketoing
Ok, I'm happy to provide documentation, medical texts, papers, and the like... But keto is excellent for glucose control, and improves liver function. If your GP was skeptical about keto, fair enough, but I can give you/them the resources to satisfy themselves to the efficacy and safety.
Added that to the list.
Magnesium glycinate. Made every difference in the world for me - I still need my meds to perform at my best, but I can muddle through without them with magnesium and a good night of sleep
This.
I’ll apply your “this” as a second person using it.
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I used take other forms of Magnesium, but recently found Glycinate has made a massive improvement in my sleep.
Best sleep I've had in years.
I hyper focused on my gut microbiome and the results are very interesting. No more anxiousness, amazing sleeps, and way better ment focus. Almost never forget things now. There is a lot of scientific support here too as the microbiome really does play a large role in our mental state.
What did you do exactly?
Tom Brady poop
It was not one thing but months of things starting with a 7 day water fast then on to rice porridge and then onto streamed sweet potatoes and carrots and over time more and more options. It was brutal but my circumstances dictated such extreme measures as I had developed a severe histamine and glutamate sensitivity. AI was amazing at navigating it all, but it is not perfect so I used 2 AIs and many other sources to validate each step of the journey. I am honestly shocked it worked so well.
It sounds like you’re improving your overall health. That’s always valuable.
I find a combination of St. John's Wort and Lion's Mane Extract help with my mood and focus.
FYI, St John's wart can affect serotonin, which can be dangerous if you're on anti depressants.
It can also reduce the effectiveness of hormonal birth control.
Lions mane extract seemed to help me, before I knew I had ADHD. Just seemed like when I had it regularly I had less brain fog. I used a few ml every morning in stone water.
I stopped using it because it seemed pricey, and I only bought it from one guy at the farmers market because I know a lot of commercially available supplements dont have what they say they do in the US.
I should try to find another good source to see if it helps now that I have other things as well.
Also black coffee but fresh roasted / fresh ground specialty coffee seems to help way more. Grocery store coffee gives me heartburn
Just grow it, to be honest. Not that hard, though might be a little pricy?
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NAC - N-acetyl-cysteine. Psychiatrist recommended it for weaning myself off a THC dependency, but after reading a few PubMed-available research papers I found data supporting further research into its effects on ADHD.
Additionally, I kept researching in an attempt to improve brain fog and sleep issues I suspect are from long COVID. I found studies indicating NAC combined with guanfacine may help those symptoms.
I've found better results from 600mg NAC (standard daily dose is 1200mg) taken three times a day, and started 1mg guanfacine twice a day recently with plans to increase to 2mg twice a day in a week or two.
I would love to share the NIH papers with anyone interested. Educating yourself about your condition and its particular manifestation will get you far with an invested care team. I'm headed to bed bit will reply to any and every person interested in the research tomorrow morning.
The message I sent to my psych two days after she recommended NAC contained inline citations referring to the papers I had linked at the bottom. That due diligence communicated my dedication not only to my own care, but also to my dedication and respect for knowledge.
Don't take random supplements recommended to you on the internet. Discuss their use with a doctor or, barring that, ground your decisions in science.
Weed helps, in edible form, when taken with ritalin and adderall
I bet, but unfortunately the legality of weed is still by state, and not legal federally. The rest are by script.
Weed has been legal in my country federally for a decade. What are you talking about?
Not everyone lives where you do. There’s plenty of the world where it isn’t federally legal.
Maybe let us know that?
You say states so I assume USA, you can get THC mailed to you totally legally as long as it's below a certain amount per volume.
I just started microdosing THC and CBD (2.5mg each a day) and it's really helping with my productivity! I buy online from a shop called Mr. Moxeys or something like that, they ship mints or gummies to most US states to microdose. Kind of expensive (87 cents a day) but WAY cheaper than Adderall, and less dangerous.
Did you read what I said? I said legality varies by state, and it’s still illegal federally.
That is 100% correct.
Good for you it works.
Adding my own, and I just started these a month or so ago so I’m not entirely sure that the effects are correct, but they seem to be helping slightly.
Magnesium Glycinate
L- Threonate (1/2 dose, found it made me sleepy too early at full dose)
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Standard multivitamin (no “extreme” values, everything is 100% or less)
Omega 3
I have absolutely noted a better sleep. Far less mind-churning time when trying to fall asleep. I would guess a little less brain fog and stress, but I don’t know if memory is any better. Having a little less anxiety does help a bit, because you’re not focusing on the stressful thing and have a chance to remember what you were supposed to. The last three I was taking anyway for general health reasons. The magnesium and L-Threonate I picked up just to see if they might help with ADHD.