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KDE creates a safe haven for Windows 10 exiles. (cdn.masto.host)
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KDE creates a safe haven for Windows 10 exiles.

In the context of the @Endof10 campaign, we have created a new "for" page, this time "for Windows 10 exiles":

https://kde.org/for/w10-exiles/

In it we explain how Linux with Plasma can help users escape the deranged cycle of having to buy a new computer every time Microsoft force-upgrades their operating system.

#Windows11 #Microsoft #endOf10

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Plasma ended up being my DE of choice a year ago. Native Wayland support, HDR and VRR, and general adherence to the same Windows paradigm for managing apps/desktop shortcuts made things easy. I don't think that design is wrong, and it's been plenty efficient. It was also the only DE at the time that seemed to be prioritizing matching Windows features where they were clearly strongest rather than trying to pretend Windows had nothing to boast about at all.

Now, if we could talk about letting me enable display outputs without using the terminal that would be greeeeaaaat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait, Plasma has HDR support? I thought only really Gnome was that far the Wayland pipe that they had support for HDR?

Being constrained by HDR support has been the bane of the last few days of moving to linux since Gnome causes me no end of issues, its simply very unstable in my system.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Since the beginning of last year. Gnome didn't have it at the time that I moved over, so it's a surprise to me that it does now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, can confirm it works on Plasma and I have to say it looks real nice on an HDR monitor.

The colors really pop!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

@[email protected] @Endof10 @[email protected]
This action finally spurred me to install vanilla Linux with KDE, and wow. KDE is so good nowadays. Thank you for your great work!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

What's Vanilla Linux? Vanilla OS?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Lovely to hear. Thanks! We hope you enjoy it and please give us feedback so we can improve.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Usually I'm all in favor of campaigns designed to make people get rid of Windows I'm not a big fan of how the Endof10 campaign is run.

They do not recommend any specific distribution. Instead they literally say "Search for Linux distributions for beginners to get some suggestions."

A search query like this will make you end in SEO hell and you will not any good suggestions. Please actually recommend a few distributions for you campaign instead of leaving the most important step very vague.

On top of that it talks about Linux and not GNU/Linux, while also avoiding mentioning the issues of software freedom.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

For what it's worth, I just switched from Windows 10 to Fedora KDE Plasma and it's been perfect so far. Only hurdle was windows kept corrupting the flash drive I was trying to make until I figured out the right order to do everything. Now I can make it so that when I close a window it bursts into flames and disintegrates, awesome.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@[email protected] @Endof10 @[email protected]

I have a Windows 11 / Kubuntu dual boot setup.

Windows 11 crashes about 1x per hour.

Kubuntu has never crashed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@[email protected] @Endof10 @[email protected] also, the only reason i have Windows AT ALL is because Rekordbox (dj software) does not run on Linux. if it did, i would delete windows forever and never look back.

Rekordbox is also one of those softwares that i wish i didnt need to use at all.

im seeing a pattern here…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have you looked into Mixxx? I understand that it takes more after Serato than Rekordbox though. I haven't used any of them myself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

@turtle I would definitely dump Rekordbox for Mixxx if I could stick to DJing with Controllers. but you need to have a Rekordbox formatted USB stick to use the Pioneer CDJs they usually have at clubs.

Pioneer really has professional DJs by the you know whats

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

@turtle my response to this? Skip the CDJs and just do live eurorack performance. Have I successfully done this yet? No. 😭

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (4 children)

That sounds wild! I'm not a DJ but have some interest in it.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

@kde @Endof10 @kde I've heard good things about a video editor called Kdenlive - maybe you could check it out? 😈

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Its sorta funny but I like kde overall but the windows like distro I use utilizes gnome and my setup is lazy install and go. I think it would make sense for the distro to use kde mainly but I think the distro is sorta lazy and uses ubuntu with changing as little as they have to for what they want.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So if you use a *buntu based distro, but prefer kde, why not KDE neon?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

so its a string of lazy. I don't want to change anything more than I have to with my out of box distro and I think they don't want to deal outside base ubuntu for their changes. Honestly I have no idea how they decide to do their distro but they make the gnome feel like windows and their claim to fame is a desktop design switcher to have it be osx and many variations in the paid version.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Zorin OS?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

yes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

@[email protected] @Endof10 @[email protected] Just terminal commands are gonna be a huge hurdle for Windows exiles. Had to have someone guide me through a bunch of code after the Nobara upgrade didn't install gpu drivers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That's one of the best things about Linux tho ... no matter what flavour you're using you can always find someone to help you with it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] ok i love the spirit of this but did u need the word exile. like we live in a world where ppl are literally exiled from their actual homes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Exactly how can Windows break my computer. My wife has a computer still running Windows XP and it still works. She never connects it to the internet, think that's the way.

Will I be able to run my steam and Epic games with this? What about another PC games I own? And my hundreds of mp3 books and thousands of music files. I have them on internal harddrives. If I upgrade my main hard drive to this will I be able to access the files and docs on the two another drives?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Will I be able to run my steam and Epic games with this? What about another PC games I own?

Possibly yes, and incressingly possible over time. Check out ProtonDB. Proton is built into Steam. I don't know anything about Epic.

And my hundreds of mp3 books and thousands of music files.

Absolutely yes.

I have them on internal harddrives. If I upgrade my main hard drive to this will I be able to access the files and docs on the two another drives?

Yep, there's support for multiple hard drives, and Linux can read NTFS-formatted drives. But what's more, Linux installers have long supported "guided partitioning," which helps you install the OS alongside an existing one like Windows, and then choose between the two when you boot. Of course, when you're installing any new OS, even Windows, you should make sure you have backups of all your stuff, just in case.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I still recommend getting a new SSD to install Linux on if you want to keep the ability to run your old Windows on that same machine. It is cheap, safe for both your Windows and Linux installs, usually allows you to take advantage of advancements in SSD speeds, lets you have access to your old files so you can transfer them over and makes the whole process far less terrifying.

At some point you'll realize you haven't used your Windows drive in a year and it will be a lot easier to make the decision to finally erase it all and repurpose the drive for something else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (6 children)

At some point you’ll realize you haven’t used your Windows drive in a year and it will be a lot easier to make the decision to finally erase it all and repurpose the drive for something else.

It hasn't been a year yet but so far it's been the other way around for me (except for the VM I run my piracy stuff on and my media server, that's going great). I have been running into constant issues and annoyances trying to use Linux as my daily driver. Maybe if all I cared about was streaming content and gaming it would be fine but I couldn't even get through my taxes without having to switch back.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Do you have any use cases in particular that have been pain points? I'm a 20+ year user who helps folks make the switch as a hobby, I may have some advice for you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

@ArsonButCute @lightnsfw can't speak for him but most of the people I've helped their major pain points were literally that they never understood what they were doing, just which icons to click, to them IE WAS the internet and firefox was a "different" thing so they'd get frustrated no matter how many times they were told to click on firefox for the internet they'd claim the internet was missing.

Literally installing a windows icon pack/skin fixes 99% of the issues for many people.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

You, you seem like good people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I do my best! 🩷🌸🌷

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At the moment the issues I'm dealing with are CAD No Fusion 360 on Linux and FreeCAD has ran like shit on every system I've tried and getting my peripherals working, mainly my Logitech stuff, mainly my g602 mouse but I also have a headset from them that doesn't work properly and from what I understand can't work properly on Linux. Another problem I had a few weeks ago was something killed the secure boot enrollment on my Linux os and it refused to boot at all or even get into repair mode even after I disabled secure boot. I had to completely reinstall it and start over which is not sustainable if that reoccurs with any sort of frequency.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

games some but not all. music and video files no problem. I don't know of a disk format linux cannot use its only with windows that it does not natively read the unix ones. ntfs and fat should be no issue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@Fredselfish @kde yes, most of them, if not all. I recommend using heroic games launcher, it has a direct portal to get and install your epic and gog games. Don't hesitate to ask me if you need help 🙂

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

@[email protected] @[email protected] Nice!
I would love helping to translate it to german, where would I head for that?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

@Numerfolt @[email protected] @[email protected]

See: https://community.kde.org/Get/_Involved/translation

Easiest way is probaly to contact somone from the german team in via mailing list. They can guide you through the process

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That is so kind. Danke!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@[email protected] @Endof10 @[email protected] but we can't explain how to get headless desktop working with kde and plasma, after like, 10 years

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Off topic much?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

@Bro666 no my point was kde is broke and people like you won't help, just be sarcastic and useless
stick with windows the community is better

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

This comment is so funny that I want to upvote it.

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