I really hope the executive takeaway is "let individual creators have unique takes and expand Star Wars" and not "All Star Wars should now be dark and depressing and grim."
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Agree. Skeleton Crew had very different ambitions, but I think it successfully achieved them. I think that Star Wars is at least slightly more than “just a setting,” but letting creatives with a good story to tell go ahead and tell it to Star Wars fans is the way to go. Favreau I think may be done after the M&G movie, and Filoni probably needs to be kept away from live action and be the animation guy plus the “spirit of George” Jimmy Cricket.
The beauty of Andor is that the story didn’t HAVE to be a Star Wars story, but it was molded around Star Wars in a respectful way that enhanced both the show and the “universe.”
I actually really liked skeleton crew, felt like a love letter to goonies and other kids adventure movies of the 80s
Completely agree. I think it succeeded perfectly at being that, and it was the only live action Star Wars project I could get my 11yo daughter to sit through.
Acolyte I think got more hate than it deserved, but I can't make the same argument for it. It was a quite a mess with only a few bright spots shining through.
I see Acolyte as either the worst of the best, or the best of the worst. At least it did try to tell an interesting story, and parts of it were done very well. Other parts, especially around the start and much that involves the main character Osha, was not so well done. But it doesn't drop the ball nearly as badly as Ahsoka, never mind Kenobi or Boba Fett.
I hope they realize a Rogue Squadron show could absolutely work
The thing is you're describing the acolyte as well. Same approach one turned out great the other not so great
The Acolyte was built on a solid concept and had some great moments. The directing was terrible, though.
Things that went wrong with The Acolyte:
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It spoiled its "mystery" in its first episode but then continued to act like we, the audience, were in the dark about it
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A lot of the conflict came from characters holding the Idiot Ball for no reason and never communicating
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It killed off all the most interesting characters that it had spent the entire season fleshing out, and then asked us to tune in next season to follow the continuing adventures of the characters it hadn't managed to make us care about (and Qimir who's cool but not cool enough to carry a show on his own)
Add in that its episode breaks were very nearly arbitrary. I have heard that people who waited and binged it liked it a little more.
The unfortunate situation is that Star Wars fans loved Andor, but it was one of the lowest watched star wars shows, while being one of the most expensive. Good ratings won’t move the needle for disney, views will.
I posit that ratings in a franchise like Star Wars are a downstream reflection of previous material. Part of Andor's low ratings I think are a reflection on the other shows that came out and weren't good. It creates an environment where so many viewers check out. I'd say that Disney reducing the amount of Star Wars shows it puts out and giving the shows to properly talented creators to make unique high quality projects should be the takeaway.
The show just ended, i just binged it, judging the views and rating on a show that just ended is silly. Most people wait till it’s over to binge it like I did.
I totally agree, but most of these companies are not creating shows for their long term libraries, but for immediate views. You’d think they’d be smarter about these choices, but shareholders…
We could’ve had 3 to 5 seasons of number one overall ranking, but Disney is too cheap to spend the $$.
That was Disney’s intention but Tony Gilory convinced them to just do two
That’s what was said in public. But the bigger picture is that it was an expensive show to produce.
“Still, there’s more at play than narrative symmetry. Each episode reportedly costs around $20 million to produce, making Andor one of the most expensive shows in Star Wars history. “
Regardless of how expensive the show was, that money was well-spent as it's reinvigorated the flagging fan interest in the entire franchise. People would be excited to see more political thriller/spy procedural stuff set in the Galaxy Far Far Away now. I was already fascinated by the Doctor Pershing stuff in The Mandalorian; if they started building on that angle and did a "Kleya as an aging George Smiley-type working with Chancellor Mothma, General Syndulla and Senator Organa in trying to counter the rise of the First Order during the Galactic Cold War era" I would be front row centre for that and I suspect I wouldn't be the only one. Andor has made the politics of Star Wars exciting again, and I wanna see more Senate oversight committees with Leia going up against Senator Xiono et al. Though unfortunately a recast would be necessary...
Didn’t Diego Luna also not want to do 5 seasons? I think many things factored into the 2 seasons.
Yeah from what I heard it was both Tony and Diego's decision as after the amount of work that went into season 1 they didn't think they could do 5 seasons
It was the smart choice. It would have been cancelled after the 2nd season anyway.
Anyone else pissed about B2EMO getting shafted this season? Did they forget he existed?
Bee was with Bix. It was the safest place for him.
They didn't have much for him, it's true, but I thought his part in the Bix coda was very nice. For me, B2 was like my dogs in Fallout or Minecraft, too precious and pure to expose to danger. :-)