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Over the past few decades, the number of Americans who identify as religiously unaffiliated—often referred to as “nones”—has grown rapidly. In the 1970s, only about 5% of Americans fell into this category. Today, that number exceeds 25%. Scholars have debated whether this change simply reflects a general decline in belief, or whether it signals something more complex. The research team wanted to explore the deeper forces at play: Why are people leaving institutional religion? What are they replacing it with? And how are their personal values shaping that process?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago

No no no, this ancient religion from the Middle East based off of several other cultures mythology is the TRUTH!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 hours ago

Because it's a grift?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Because it's all horseshit?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I was going to say bullshit but either will do.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

When it comes to bullshit, you have to stand in awe of religion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

I miss carlin. I would love to hear his take on the current bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

I'll do ya one better and go with tyrannosaurus shit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago

I can give you 100+ reasons why…. None are good for you and/or me.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 13 hours ago

My guess is that the extreme hatred flowing out of outspoken "Christians" in the US is a huge turn-off, as it should be.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

We can just go to therapy instead of confessional.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Confessional is cheaper

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

In the 1970s, only about 5% of Americans fell into this category. Today, that number exceeds 25%.

That's ... a surprisingly slow transition. I can understand that an official turn away from christianity only started in the 1970s, fueled by a cultural revolution.

But the fact that only 25% of people have officially said no to religion as of today is staggering me. I would have thought it would be closer to 80%, maybe.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Considering who has the fertility advantage here, I am not sure this trend will even continue indefinitely. I've seen it in my own distant family, the only ones to have a BUNCH were the weird-ass Christian extremists whose kids are all named Isaac and shit.

The rest of us mostly had no kids, with a few having 1 or 2.

And obviously, the intro to Idiocracy, but it's true.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

R strategists do not have good relationships with their kids.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

Never underestimate the power of indoctrination to an incurious victim.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago

It's been a slow trend over the last decades but it's encouraging to hear about.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Everyone, myself included always come back to the same reason - there is no proof.

If I was given actual proof of a god or pantheon or any other ridiculous nonsense I’d absolutely change my mind but actual proof magic exists can’t exist because magic isn’t real

I fully accept that I don’t and can’t truly understand the universe but where the fuck does that somehow morph into “god did it” it’s ok not to know everything I don’t need made up bullshit to fill the gaps so I can feel better about not having every answer. Live with not knowing, that’s what being human is meant to be, acceptance

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

god definitely exists, as it's just a philosophical concept to say the "cause of all causes". by definition, such a thing exists, i would say.

the issue is more with organized religion. there's a lot of rules and bureaucracy in it, and most of that is outdated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

god definitely exists, as it’s just a philosophical concept to say the “cause of all causes”.

Most believers will assert that their god exists in a different, more concrete way. The number of persons able or willing to discuss the topic on your terms is an insignificant minority.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They have tech now. And conspiracy theories. Lots of stuff to cult about. They can build their own religion if they want.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

With blackjack and hookers! In fact, forget the religion!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

samus12345, you lead and I will follow. All hail samus12345.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

the atomisation of society!

it would throw society into chaos! (/s)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

For their study, Schnabel and his colleagues used data from the National Study of Youth and Religion. This included four waves of longitudinal survey data and 183 in-depth interviews conducted from 2003 to 2013. The sample included over 1,300 individuals, each tracked from adolescence into young adulthood. [...] The number of respondents attending religious services dropped dramatically between 2003 and 2013.

The study used data that's 12 years old! Millennials are not young adults anymore. At this point it's well known that Americans, especially the younger cohorts, are moving away from religion, so why even bother reanalyzing ancient data?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago

It is very useful to reanalyze old data. Recently, a study came out that concluded that we have misunderstood the role of nutrition and calories in fitness, and it examined studies over a period of decades to come to the conclusions. You don't always need new data to make new conclusions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Gen Z is more religious and conservative, than millennials, a lot more

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Generally less able to identify scams so, it tracks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

I'm not sure they got to play the tutorial levels that we did.

A lot of us millennials had hotmail accounts that got the actual stereotypical Nigerian Prince emails. They were obvious as shit, so we learned to put our guard up. Gen Z came of age into a world full of pig butchering scams and other such sophisticated shit.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Because I don't need God to be a good person, or know what good morals are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

I think it was Penn Jillette who put it best...

I murder all I want to, and the amount I want is zero

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago

Most of us get our sense of decency from the inside. Some can only find it in a book. Which is more dangerous the person who sense of right and wrong are with them or the ones who are just one crisis of faith from not having any?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 21 hours ago

Not to mention you'll do a better job at it if you think for yourself on the subject rather than delegating it to a spiritual leader with potentially dubious agendas

[–] [email protected] 9 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Here's my theory why:

  • People nowadays have higher average education and can much more easilly spot the logical inconsistences in Religion.
  • People are so overexposed and overwhelmed by swindles in the modern era that they are more naturally spotting the swindle nature of ancient swindles such as Religion.
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